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Wanted to ask you about this article, how do you remember the early days of the internet (I was sadly too young at that time). Do you wish it back? And do you think it can ever be like that again? I would be very interested

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 153 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (92 children)

I miss written tutorials. I hate how every tutorial is a YouTube now. I don't want to watch 15 minutes and forget to pay attention for the second that has the detail that I am missing or it just doesn't show. Even short tutorials are 3 minutes when it could have been a ten second read. I want to skim a page and go directly to the point. Has writing really become that hard to do?

[–] Anders429@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Drives me crazy when I see this kind of format for things like programming. Nothing like pausing the video and trying to see what their code says.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I was all set to start bitching about the obligatory 10-15 minutes of "older, medicated suburban housewife shows off her whole yarn closet, every needle, which needle she likes (it's just pretty), her fingernails, pushes her state-mandated store, and then finishes off with an internet recipe story about how her gramgram was fleeing the war and had to knit jasmine stitch backwards to survive......before fucking up the stitch and never editing that part out. But it's ok because her hands were in the way the whole time anyway."

But I think you've found the only thing that has me beat.

I will at least use this time to implore any knitting/crochet peeps on the fediverse that if you or someone you love is uploading how-to videos anywhere on the web.....SHOW ME THE DAMN STITCH SO I CAN LEAVE. I HAVE PROJECTS, I DO NOT CARE.

[–] swan_pr@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll usually go with the length of the video in cases like this. Anything above 5 minutes is a red flag!

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I still remember a video I found a year ago that was just barely over a whole minute. It was a guy doing one single really clear cable stitch in complete silence, and then the video cuts out.

I do not know who they are, but I will vouch for that man before god.

Doing a cursory search to see if I can find it again, the second video suggested to me is 26:44 long.

[–] swan_pr@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It probably disappeared into the ether because it was too short or lacked a backdrop of dried flowers and a cup of tea.

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

YT algorithm favors videos that are at least 10 minutes (they fit more ads in) so those get recommended more. As a result, runtimes get padded with fluff so you get recommended to more viewers.

[–] flipthetube@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That’s disgusting.

I feel like relying on the algorithms completely misses the human elements.

If I need an answer to something, I want my top results to be short and sweet. If I want a documentary or dj set, I don’t want a 3-10 minute version.

[–] TorbenI@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@4am @swan_pr
Ended up transcribing a (good) sourdough bread recipe from a 19 minute YT that included a segment of the baker and his girlfriend biking to the beach to swim. I need baking tips - not a leopard bikini FFS!

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You asked for doughy buns, you got doughy buns

[–] fasnix@dresden.network 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@4am @swan_pr
For me, it depends on the topic of the video.
E.g. there are "full courses" about "learning HTML/CSS" or "Svelte" or anything frontend development related, that work for me.

And I don't watch any youtube video on youtube anymore, but only use an invidious server, like yewtu.be - works like a charme (most of the time).

No ads, no tracking, no algorithm \o/

[–] swan_pr@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Of course, it all depends on the context. A tutorial for a specific knitting stitch can be done in under 5 minutes, other stuff not so much! There was also an interesting thread somewhere yesterday asking why don't people use their subscription feed on YT and the answers were a good representation of the user base here, ie: most do use it and avoid the algo at all costs! So I think we're all on the same page here, we search and use YT in a way that is most efficient but not the most common :)

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