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You know those sci-fi teleporters like in Star Trek where you disappear from one location then instantaneously reappear in another location? Do you trust that they are safe to use?

To fully understand my question, you need to understand the safety concerns regarding teleporters as explained in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQHBAdShgYI

spoilerI wouldn't, because the person that reappears aint me, its a fucking clone. Teleporters are murder machines. Star Trek is a silent massacre!

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[โ€“] Emperor_Cartagia@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Star Trek Transporters don't annihilate you. According to all the stuff from Star Trek it literally disassembles you, moves your particles through space in a matter stream held in a containment field, and reassembles you at the new location.

So the Ship of Theseus question doesn't actually apply, your physical material is the same before and after. The question is if disassembly constitutes dying, and if the reassembled you at the new location is a resurrected you, or if disassembly isn't dying, then it is in fact just a form of transport.

[โ€“] marsara9@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you account for the duplicate Riker in TNG? Who's the real one and where did the extra matter come from then to assemble William vs Tom?

(It's been a long time since I've seen that episode so I don't remember if they covered that but on-screen)

A similar question could be raised for the Rascals episode...

[โ€“] evatronic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To quote MST3k, "It's just a show, you should really just relax."

Non-seriously, though, in Trek lore, energy and mass are still interchangeable via e=mc^2 -- the weird conditions on the planet caused the matter stream to be mirrored and the extra energy came from the ship adding More Power to the transport process.

It probably means that the real, original Riker, made up of atoms that were built from energy from the original Riker is the one that ended up on the planet.

[โ€“] marsara9@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Sometimes you can't help but go down these rabbit holes though.

[โ€“] evatronic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Whenever you're tempted, remember this is the same show where Dr. Crusher nearly fucked a candle ghost.

[โ€“] millie@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Tell that to the second Riker.