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China’s EV Boom Threatens to Push Gasoline Demand Off a Cliff (finance.yahoo.com)
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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Also bad news for US: “drill baby, drill”! Oops

Worst of all, bad news for the environment, as US says “I told you so, plenty of cheap gas for my SUV”

Sorry, a bit frustrated with my fellow citizens

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm confused, so if China reducing their oil consumption is bad for the environment, does that mean China burning more oil is good? Call me skeptical.

Demand needs to drop, that's always a good thing. Yes, in the short term prices may also drop and some dickheads will get a good deal, but prices will correct as the industry shrinks and production drops. The more demand drops, the less economical large refineries become, and we can finally enjoy the death spiral of a contracting industry.

There are other (better) ways to kill the industry like a carbon tax and banning production, but in the spirit of trying all of the approaches this is still positive.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

US is way too big an oil consumer, way too slow on fixing it. Slowin it down even more is just bad, and we’re big enough polluters that it won’t just affect us