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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 39 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Cheap #bothSides nonsense.

You mean

GqP: lol no plebe

Dems: if we can get the ability, that's our goal. Aw fuck we've been cockblocked by the senate again. Sorry.

[–] thundermoose@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

It doesn't seem weird to you that there's always some reason a Democrat prevents Democrats from accomplishing things when they have a majority? It's been like two decades of this, bud. There's always some reason for them not to fix anything.

I'll vote Democrat every time because, although they barely do anything, at least they won't actively make things worse. That choice fucking sucks though, so quit acting like Democrats aren't trash. They are trash and the only reason to vote for them is because the other side is taking policy advice from literal Nazis.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (38 children)

Then weren't. They had a trifecta for 2 years and it became obvious that they were unwilling to actually fight. They gave up at literally the first sign of resistance. And they haven't put forward anything that would actually change the system. Just a pay raise.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Obama had a 60 seat supermajority in the Senate.

It's not a lack of ability. It's a lack of will.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

That 60 seat majority included Joe "totally a real Democrat" Manchin and a deceased Ted Kennedy, and they still passed the Affordable Care Act which was very much a "big fucking deal."

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The ACA was a national version of the Heritage foundation's for profit friendly Healthcare bandaid that bent over backward to keep for profit insurer's cut in and was initially instituted by a Republican governor. It didn't even put us in the right direction, because the right direction is ending the role of private insurer middlemen in Healthcare, which is yet another national disease we suffer. It insured more people at the cost of expanding the profit base of the market capitalists, the enemies of almost everyone else whether they love that enemy or not.

The Democrats have never done what needs to be done, take some of the profit from the oligarchs that profit off society and only succeeded with societal infrastructure they don't want to pay for, and give it to society through the commons.

Until a party starts addressing the greedy profiteer elephant in the room, nothing can improve, so nothing will improve until this gold plated cesspool collapses, almost certainly by the impacts of capitalist made climate change.

This system is comically too far captured by the capital market to have any reasonable hope for rehabilitation. It has protections upon protections, both through effective propaganda cannels and then force, to prevent any economic rehabilitation that doesn't hand even more GDP to the 0.1% at everyone else's expense.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The Affordable Care Act fell far short of being what we really needed, where millions still suffer with unaffordable premiums and worthless coverage. What we need is universal healthcare.

Joe Manchin wasn't a god. They could have dealt with him if the political will existed, just like they could have dealt with Joe Lieberman back in 2009. Mobilize the people against him, Go after his financial supporters, go after his friends and family, make his life a living hell for defying the will of the Party and the People.

But Democrats will never do something like that

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 8 points 18 hours ago

If someone's using it as an argument "Here's why we need to get involved in political activism and improve the Democratic party," then it makes perfect sense. Biden did good, but the Democrats are far from what we need.

If someone's using it as an argument "Why not just abandon the idea of influencing politics at all, even if that means letting the Republicans have a turn smashing up the country we all live in to sell it as scrap for them and their friends while killing anyone who disagrees, because what's the worst that could happen, Dems suck anyway lol," they are either trying to help the Republicans or they've been fooled by the people who are trying to help the Republicans. They will, in the next few years, be able to have a terrifying and tragic object lesson in what the worst that could happen is.