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[–] frunch@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Which is more difficult though? Establishing and maintaining a farm or a podcast?

I think it's the high barrier to entry (long days, hard work) that prevent more people from starting a podcast

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Farming is far more demanding in startup capital, labor, skill, and hours.

Creating a podcast is easy. Creating a good podcast requires skill. Creating a successful podcast requires skill and luck.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Farming badly and unsuccessfully is comparatively easy as well. Anyone can throw seeds into dirt and wait for rain.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. My point was that success in farming is determined by startup capital, skill, long hours, and hard labor, whereas success in podcasting requires connections and luck over effort.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No man, being a bad farmer takes way more work than being a bad podcaster.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I could just record myself talking to my cat and be a bad podcaster.

chokes way up on the mic, drops voice an octave Welcome back to the Aggravated Hour, I'm the Captain, and on this week's episode we're going to get right down to tonight's questions: Who's a good kitty? Are you a good kitty? Who's a kitty? Are you grey? I think you're grey. Let's examine the evidence.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 weeks ago

Dirt and seeds are relatively expensive compared to a microphone and internet access

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

There are many incompetent farmers and many aspiring incompetent farmers out there. They don't stay that way for long unless they are independently wealthy.

I have no idea why anyone would down vote you...

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Unless you're famous, wildly charismatic, or have some very specialized knowledge I'm not sure how you break into the podcasting game. I mean you could have a podcast, but it wouldn't earn you a living.

Farming you could have microgreens or mushrooms in customer hands in a few weeks and that could be done from a closet after watching some youtube videos.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yep, just that easy to earn a living through farming!

That comment 🤣

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not saying working your way up to earning a living farming would be any way easy, but you could be earning something a lot sooner than a podcast if you're starting from zero in both scenarios.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You could also just Uber and make 4x as much for less effort.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Unfortunately yes, this is very true.

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

Fuckin' eggs come outta their arses!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s a lot you can do in the closet after watching some YouTube videos.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I spent all of my teenage years in the closet and I did indeed watch YouTube as a kid

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Unless you're famous, wildly charismatic, or have some very specialized knowledge I'm not sure how you break into the podcasting game.

There are only two real options:

  1. Be part of an existing popular podcast. If you get to be a guest appearance and you're charismatic enough, you can get invited back more often until you're a regular. Get good enough to get your own following and then you can eventually break off and do your own thing with sponsorships from the get-go.

  2. Be famous for something else first. If you're a celebrity, author, streamer, YouTube personality, etc., you can start a podcast from nothing and have your sponsors and listeners already lined up.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I see farmers' protests almost every quarter about how they are struggling, how bad big farm competition is, how the equipment they need is prohibitively expensive and vendor locked, how any seeds that they need to be competitive are patented and exorbitant in costs. I didn't know farming was so easy.

Someone tell the farmers to watch youtube videos and clear out their closets. They clearly are doing something wrong.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You're missing my point.

There's zero income if you're an unknown podcaster and there's zero demand for it.

Almost anyone can grow something and there's always demand for fresh produce.

I could work equally hard at either task and one would actually net returns for my work. This isn't saying farming is easy.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yeah, but you said you could have a podcast, but it wouldn't earn you a living. The same way you could theoretically grow produce and it wouldn't earn you a living either.

With enough work you could make returns on a podcast too. Both podcasting and farming require lots of work to grow a network, to acquire equipment and to find customers and partners. In both, you require time to be trustworthy. Both of those things are part of the same entrepreneurial process.

I may concede that perhaps you can get a couple of bucks faster with a homegrown garden, but it is not as easy as you're saying. Your grocery store/restaurant will not buy random veggies from Joe nobody when they have suppliers already. They don't even know how safe is the food you're growing. You'd have to find specialized farmer's markets and you'd have to pay for a stall there, as well as all the grow lights and hydroponics setup to grow the produce. That's residual money, if money at all.

The people you see on youtube are probably making more money with youtube selling education than they are with their micro arugulas or whatever. Or maybe they're lucky to have friends with restaurants or stores already who are willing to take the risk on some random person with no store and no licenses selling food on the side. And it's a big risk, because some farms have sent people to the hospital by growing greens next to livestock and ended up contaminating everything with E. Coli. They probably won't boil greens, so you can guess why it's not a small risk to take. Sure, you can say, but I'm very clean, i have no livestock and my fertilizer is reputable, but without licenses, there is no proof and it's not like they are going to send someone to inspect your farm.

And they're not even gonna hear you out unless you're coming with a price lower than the supplier that's growing an entire greenhouse full of microgreens for them. The whole microgreens/mushrooms fad was a gap between the demand appearing and big corpos responding to it with their massive greenhouses. Every year that goes by, it's gonna be harder and harder to break into that market, let alone survive in it. Farming is a very scale up sensitive industry and small players have an incredibly rough time in it over time.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You can always feed yourself and your family if you're a farmer, that's not true if you're a podcaster. Also most the farmers that are complaining about those things just want more government subsidies

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago

Eeeeh. You can provide food, but it won't be really a balanced died. My grandparents had a subsistence farm where my grandmother and relatives worked together and my grandfather still needed a job for all the things they didn't produce, like out of climate produce, oils, meats, fish, dairy, cereals and fruits.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Farming you could have microgreens or mushrooms in customer hands in a few weeks and that could be done from a closet after watching some youtube videos.

Ha ha ha ha. "It'll be easy they said! You'll be raking in the profits in weeks they said". LOL.

It took me three years of busting my ass to make a profit, and that's considered exceptionally good.