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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are the people not on the hook for electricity usage but they are for cheap crap? The corporations reselling the cheap crap are far more culpable. The problem is still capitalism.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay, we've identified the problem is capitalism. Now what? Are you not at fault when you buy cheap crap from China you don't need or take your car somewhere you could have walked, because the problem is capitalism?

When crops are failing due to drought and kids are starving to death is pointing the finger at capitalism going to save them?

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your logic: "We've identified the problem is capitalism. Stop pointing at it and start pointing at something else, that'll solve it!"

Now what?

Now we organise to abolish capitalism in historically achievable ways, such as unionisation of workers, creation of socialist and dual power structures, and the eventual revolution.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Your logic: "We've identified the problem is capitalism. Stop pointing at it and start pointing at something else, that'll solve it!"

Nope, but nice try trying to strawman me.

I'm talking about taking actual individual action to stop the problem instead of merely pointing fingers.

such as unionisation of workers, creation of socialist and dual power structures, and the eventual revolution.

Okay, so we've unionised the workers, how does that stop oil companies polution?

We have socialist dual power structures, how does that stop fossil fuel emissions?

We have """the revolution""" does that magically make fossil fuels go away?

My point is you can blame capitalism all you like, but at the very least in the short/medium term if we want to actually do something about climate change we need to change how we behave. As even under a socialist or communist system people will still use electricity, that will still be generated by fossil fuels.and people will still ship things in from other countries. And good luck pushing socialism in any major western country right now.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, but it's closer than all of us pointing it at ourselves and each other.