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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

dude they banned a trans congresswoman from the women's bathroom and being a democrat she just went "ok, I'll pee in the men's room I guess"

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That I get from a certain angle. There's immense pressure on "firsts" to show that they're not there to implement radical change. That they can just be a functional member of an organization. First woman in a fighter jet, first trans person in Congress, it's the same pressure mechanism. They want to show they can do the job first and foremost.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

how did that work out for Obama? he capitulated and capitulated, and removed progressive options from the table just to get them to sit on it, and negotiated with himself on their behalf, compromised on his compromises. what happened? radical Marxist. lol.

you think she's suddenly going to be accepted because she basically agrees she's kind of a man, a little bit, actually? no.

nah democrats just don't have a spine. and that is a really bad thing to lack when the things the other side lacks are shame and honesty.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You're absolutely right.

The right move would be to make a big show of this, point out the absurdity, rightfully point out that you're being accused of being a rapist without proof, and give a speech where you point out that you just need to pee.

The Right isn't going to say "Oh, so you agree you're a man. Maybe you aren't a man, pee wherever, on my face if you want!"

They're going to say "Glad you know your place [Insert Transphobic Slur Here] now if we can get the rest of your putrid kind to get the memo."

By giving up this fight, she's well on her way to go as far in her career as Ernst Rohm did in his.

Don't know who that is? One of Hitler's closest allies, a commanding officer of the Nazis, a leading member of the Nazi Party, on a first name basis with Adolf himself...

He was also a homosexual who agreed with carting the [Insert Homophobic Slur Here]s off to camp even though he was openly gay because "Me and Hitler are bros, he's not going to....."

We'll never know how that sentence ended because they put the chloroform over his face and then he found himself waking up in line for the gas chamber.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You're conflating Democrats generally with "firsts". This is something you can find all the way back to women entering the metal work space in World War 2. It's about proving that you're not actually special, you're just a normal person whose capable of doing the job without special accommodations.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

no. rashida tlaib is the first Palestinian American woman in congress. it would be fucked up if she never raised any concerns on Israel's genocidal government just because she doesn't want to rustle any feathers.

no, it is about democrats, not firsts. weird how democrats always have to seem normal when republicans go fucking weirder by the minute.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If you ignore the urinals, there really isn't much point in separate bathrooms anyways. Especially in posh bathrooms like I'm sure they have in Congress where they pay the extra bucks to have actual doors on the stalls. This is one of those cases where arguing with idiots just makes you look like the idiot. Going along shows how ridiculous the moral panic was in the first place.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

idk why you're downvoted, I agree. gendered bathrooms are pointless; it's not like people get naked there anyway. and fuck urinals. they're dumb.

that being said of you're gonna have gendered bathrooms you can't police genitals; gonna have to go with the honor code.

it's all pointless and the security excuse is bullshit. it's ridiculous that these rules would assume a rapist wouldn't get deterred by the laws against rape but would totally be stumped by a fucking sign that says "biological".

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What’s wrong with urinals? They’re super quick and easy

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

it's in the open, it usually allows splashback, also peeing standing up is not that good for you anyway. not washing after you shit is quick and easy too; doesn't mean it's good. speaking of which, I think urinals encourage people who don't wash their hands because it's quick and easy.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

also peeing standing up is not that good for you anyway

I googled it and Google agrees with me: what?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

while there isn't much difference for healthy men (at least according to some research so far), for some people with urinary concerns sitting down is better for emptying the bladder and having a better flow. although I'd argue even with healthy men standing while peeing almost guarantees splashback so sitting down is superior either way.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

For fuck's suck.... Anywhere else in the country and that's a discrimination lawsuit.

What the fuck?