this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2024
24 points (90.0% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5277 readers
682 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
silence7
24
Why California's favorite bagel shop is defending fossil fuels (www.latimes.com)
submitted 15 hours ago by silence7 to c/climate
7 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Archived copies of the article:

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

TLDR: they would have to pay to replace natural gas related equipment in their bakeries.

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 19 points 14 hours ago

I fucking hate when small businesses do this. Why not push for transition funding instead?

A local coffee shop in my city is telling everyone that upzoning is bad across the board because if their neighborhood gets upzoned, their landlord would sell. They'll happily try to tank massive progress instead of trying to work with it.

[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

In the article they mention that there's specialty ovens that are apparently only available to work with natural gas for making the perfect bagel.

The article also summarizes my opinion that if natural gas is making people sick and contributing to their displacement, then it's pretty easy to do without bagels.

I also kind of refuse to believe that it would be impossible to make an electric bagel oven. Innovate or die, you know?

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago

Don't let perfect become the enemy of good enough. If electric ovens can make good enough bagels, then there's no argument against not using them.

[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 7 points 13 hours ago

Not saying this was a better solution for emissions - but the best bagel I had came from a wood fired oven. I can't imagine there would be a significant difference in quality between electric and gas. It's not about quality.

I can imagine that they would need to expend $$ on purchasing new equipment.