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Supposedly, an RS-26 was launched from Astrakhan and targeted at infrastructure in Dnipro.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I posted elsewhere about the rumour Russia was going to fire an RS26.

I got called a liar and warmonger.

Well, my next prediction remains the same: Russia WILL eventually use nukes. Because there will come a moment of "use it or lose it", and Russia prefers a destroyed world over an intact one without Russia.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

You see why you are called out. Putin will never use nukes. He will die if he does so and he fears for his life.

Nuclear weapons launched on the west only work as a threat, they don't actually work for anything really except that.

Secondly, they do not have any tactical gains to have from tactical nukes (and it seems they do no longer have the batallions needed to use them, so they'd nuke themselves as much as the Ukrainians), and they would lose support from China and India for using them which would really hasten the downfall of the Russian regime.

So no, there is no nUkes cOmMing.

Even I, a certified armchair general, knows this.

Edit: you got called out because you said this:

There's rumours that Russia is readying a RS26 missile at this very moment in retaliation.

If they actually do this, the war will go nuclear.

Very interesting news, kudos to you for finding and sharing them (really), but the rest is fear mongering.

[–] rmattila74@energydon.fi 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

@Valmond @Kyrgizion Plus, there is a high probability that the warheads turn out to be inoperable due to neglected pit maintenance.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Yes, but they have, supposedly, 6.000 so for now there are most certainly some that have received maintenance and scavenged material from the others.

[–] DrGeraintLLannfrancheta@nafo.army 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

@Valmond @Kyrgizion exception: tac nuke over uninhabited land or 20.000 ft over the sea (but only after the succ invasion of e. G. Finnish wetlands or the Baltics)

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why would they do that? Lots to lose nothing really to gain?

[–] Streetlights@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Shock and awe, and a demonstration that they do infact have operational nukes, can deliver them and are prepared to use them. Brinkmanship.

@Streetlights @Valmond exactly. They would likely only do it when already entered the NATO war rubicon... In order to divide NATO politically

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Russia: launches nuke…

West: does nothing because they don’t want to start WW3

Russia: that’s what I thought bitch

Seems to be the way things are going.

[–] Streetlights@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's still a few steps left on the escalation ladder.

Conceivably I can see them detonating a nuke somewhere over the blacksea at a high enough altitude to minimise fallout as a demonstration that they are serious and have the capability.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I think they would use a tactical one in Kursk since it's "their" territory.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Russia prefers a destroyed world over an intact one without Russia.

That much is true, but none of this is existential. If the Russian military packs up and heads home, Russia continues to exist. They don't want to do that ofc, but obviously Russia prefers an intact world with Russia compared to a destroyed world.