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"Boulder police are investigating the traffic signs as criminal tampering."

“I appreciate the fact that it’s drawing attention to the fact that we’d like people to slow down and not be on their phones, but there’s probably, again, a few more appropriate ways about getting that message out.”

I'd love if they implemented whatever appropriate ways they have.... then again they said appropriate, not effective.

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[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fuck decorum. I give negative damns about it given the extensive history of it being used as a shield to protect the facilitation of what amounts to mass murder. If dark skinned foreigners did ten percent the damage cars do we'd have used some of the nuclear arsenal but because it's fucking profitable innocent people die every day and little, if anything, is done about its root causes.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Hah, your 10% is terrifying realistic.

Over 40,000 people die per year from motor accidents in the US.

9/11 was 3k.

But for some reason trying to convince people that we need to treat our car culture like an emergency of the utmost importance and priority the same way we would react to another country murdering random people like 9/11 and I'm being crazy.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just did some quick checking... it looks like the War on Terror as a whole averages well below the automotive catastrophe annually if we're looking at even the broad anti-terrorism coalition.

  • Everyone comes out to 45k
  • Everyone but terrorist combatants cuts that to 30.5k
  • Cutting terrorist combatants and civilians brings that to 10k

Brown University, death toll of the War on Terror

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's just sad for a lot of reasons.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah,

I've taken to saying that we don't live in a great country, nor a good one, or even an acceptable one. No, what we have is one that should be put out of our collective misery.

[–] Laukidh@infosec.exchange 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@ericbomb remember when six people died from black market weed vapes and the government banned flavored e-cigs?

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ugh we could probably talk all day about all the things the government intervened on for perceived dangers, and just ban something random to make it look like they addressed the thing.

If I go up to a politician and say "I need your help to ban a product that has killed 20,000 people this year! Will you take my cause?"

They'd act super enthusiastic until I say it's private pick up trucks.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 1 points 1 day ago

They're very consistent about this. It's logically impossible for them to care less about the plight of the people. They've likely never cared to begin with or had conditioning over time to cease caring. No, their only concern is the continued profitability of their donors. No matter how many people that kills.

E-cigs and legal weed could be competitors to legal cigarettes. You know the abhorrent fucking things so bad they've "banned" them from advertising but would you look at that, they're allowed to air PSAs about how bad they are... and make them so "incompetently" that they serve as advertisements for their vile product.

They never have and never will care about us. So, why the fuck do we tolerate them?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 days ago

People are emotional. All of us, more or less. Some people also sometimes have other ways of engaging with the world.

But cars are emotional for people. So was 9/11. Facts don't really matter.

So when you tell someone something bad about cars, they have an emotional response and that's game over. Especially if they see you as out-group.

I don't know how to fix this but I think it's the root of all of our problems.

Maybe if we can get people to see experts as in-group again?

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Decorum and etiquette are but the genteel masks of a violent authority