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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This ignores the difference after 5-10 years. Rent keeps going up.

[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maintenance cost and property taxes too though.

[–] seth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still cheaper to own, if you have the initial funds or loan to buy and know you won't be leaving the area for awhile. If you rent a property those maintenance and tax and insurance and interest costs associated with owning it are just passed on to you in to your rent, plus a profit margin so the owner can make money off renting it out to you. Owning the same property would cost less, over time, and not just that, but you would have something to show for it.

[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What you forget is the cost of opportunity: the money that is stuck in a house is money that would yield income if it was invested somewhere else. Long term stock markets typically return 7%+, while rental return (or the rent you save by buying) can be anywhere from 3 to 7% depending on market, minus maintenance and other holding costs.

So there's no fast and hard guarantee that owning or renting is best - you need to run a proper simulation with the right parametres taking everything into account. In markets with low rental returns, renting is typically optimal.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Seems like inflation goes up faster than long term stocks, especially in 2025-2028

[–] seth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where is the money that is stuck in the house, that would hypothetically be able to be invested if not spent on the house? You have to pay to live somewhere, and if you're paying less to purchase than rent, that is money saved which is available to invest. Do you mean the up-front downpayment money needed to acquire a mortgage in the first place (typically 10-20% of the purchase cost), that could be invested in the market instead for a higher return than slowly building equity through principal payments?

[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Let me give you an overly simplified example. You are in a property market where rental yield is 3% (happens in some cities)

You could put a million dollar into buying a house and save $30k in rent every year

or

You could rent a million dollar house for $30k, and invest your million dollar in the market at 7%, returning $70k per year

Obviously this gets more complicated with mortgages, taxes, maintenance, interest rates, etc. but the gist of it is that owning your home always comes with an opportunity cost, every dollar of house equity is a dollar that isn't invested somewhere else. Depending on circumstances, renting might be the most economical choice.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] whithom@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Leaky roof? Nah, throw some clear tarp over it and you’ve got a sun roof.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Tenants better appreciate the improvement. If they don't, their rent should be raised!

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Thousands per year, usually.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My rent went down year over year.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

I bet you also think you pay income taxes cause they take it out of every check and then fail to connect the dots they gave it all back and then some during tax season.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

What is your mortgage on the tent?