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Considering it was a blocked by the governor during the first attempt, I'll take this for the win that it is.
Also, given that NYC isn't as prone to the big truck phenomenon that plagues the rest of the country, that had the potential to backfire and hurt tradespeople more than rich folks with Teslas.
You have a point. But lately where I live I'm seeing more often tradespeople and delivery in tiny electric vans. I think these vehicles could have been given a special discount at least in the beginning.
When I used to live there as a tradie, certain trades could get away with the Ford transits and stuff, plumbers electricians etc. It seemed welders, masons, tile/tub people likely can't.
But necessity is the mother of invention.
yeah. sometimes you just need an 8ft bed. I'd love to see the tiny Japanese trucks, but they don't meet American safety standards (for better or worse).
Which is frustrating because they are objectively many times safer overall than a 6000lb lifted pickup
Oh, sure. If you consider pedestrians, that's true, but we're talking about America here.
I'd argue a 8ft cargo van is still better for the majoirty of trades than an 8ft bed. Maybe landscapers and oversized loads are an exception but otherwise the van is far more practical for most applications. Many vans can tow as well.
yeah, but the trucks exist already and vans are pretty popular due to the ability to lock one's gear inside. This is one of those cases where perfect is the enemy of good. You can't change the material conditions of working people overnight and any argument for replacing outdated vehicles relies on the production of newer things, with all the associated environmental costs.
Japanese cars like you bought up is what I was thinking. You only really see the bigger trucks for full on construction or trash disposal. Even then they trend smaller. Shame about the safety stands.
Same, glad to see this experiment on the roll.
I wouldn't even call it an experiment since it has been successfully implemented in London, Singapore (since 1975!), San Diego, Milan, Stockholm, and other cities.
Experiment for NYC at least haha. I didn't notice San Diego ever having conversation pricing though.