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[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we go by the text, only "americans" have that right. Now, the important question is "what is an american"? What characterizes a "non-american" according to the founding fathers?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

White male wealthy supremacists?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Dammit! Foiled by racists once again!

........you'd think I'd put /s, but no.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don't doubt that is how the current supreme court would interpret it. This approach of asking "how the founding fathers would think" results in exclusion of non-white citizens. On the other hand, lack of atandardized identification documents in the USA result in this mess.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

Also the definition of what the founding fathers had of white was extremely different. It was only people from Britain that were white. The English, Scottish, and Welsh. No one else. Not the Germans, Irish, or Swedes even.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Are you under the impression that the founding fathers weren't slave holders themselves?