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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv would like to end the war with Russia next year through "diplomatic means" as both countries prepare for President-elect Donald Trump's return to the White House.

In an interview with the Ukrainian media outlet Suspilne, Zelenskyy said he is certain that the war will end "sooner" than it otherwise would have once Mr. Trump becomes president.

The prospect of Trump returning to power in the United States next year has raised questions about the future of the conflict, as the Republican has been critical of U.S. military aid to Kyiv.

Zelenskyy said that Ukraine "must do everything so that this war ends next year, ends through diplomatic means."

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[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thousand years from now, the same statement will be made of us. We humans change little.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Humans change quite a bit depending on Mode of Production, which shapes culture and norms.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I absolutely disagree. Lots of history proves that we are still motivated by primal instincts of self preservation. It always comes down to that.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lots of history proves that humans behaved differently based on the economic system in place. Why do you believe slavery has largely been abolished? Did humans suddenly change their minds about it?

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You’re thinking to high level. I’m talking about what actually drives us. Slavery has been largely abolished (but not really) because it’s out of fashion. We haven’t fundamentally changed the way we think. We’re far more alike our ancient ancestors than we think.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

What drives us ultimately is our material conditions. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. BTW, Harris’ dad is a Marxist, which is where I’m sure her comment sprang from.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, slavery was abolished because of technological progress and changes in Mode of Production. I'm thinking in a Historical Materialist perspective, there wasn't a random beaming of empathy in humanity.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Slavery still exists in multiple different forms tho

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Slavery used to be far more common than it is today.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whatever, you’re missing the point.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

No, I'm not. I am saying you are taking an abstract, idealist analysis that misses real historical motivations.