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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

... So he would do worse in the solid blue states but better in the purple states because... red leaning voters are secretly socialists but blue leaning voters are neoliberal scum?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No, it's because Trump-leaning voters are very blatantly populist and anti-status-quo and Bernie would deliver that more genuinely than Trump.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ah yes, defeat Trump by appealing to conservatives. A time-tested strategy.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

No, damn it! Quit being willfully obtuse. Why can't you acknowledge the fact that damn near a third of the country is so disaffected by both parties' refusal to meet their needs that they'd given up on voting at all? That's the demographic -- people clamoring for change, any change, because the status quo has failed then -- that fake-populist Trump appealed to for his margin of victory, and that real-populist Bernie could've appealed to even better.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -2 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Bernie can't bring out people who don't vote. If he could, he would have won a lot more votes in Vermont.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Okay, I need you to understand something: not voting in a primary is not the same thing as not voting in the general election. That goes double for the kinds of people who are pissed off at the two-party system in general.

Do you realize how fundamentally stupid it is to respond to the argument "Bernie was capable of winning the general election precisely because he would appeal to the kinds of people who don't vote in Democratic primaries" by saying "but if he can't even win the primary how could he win the general election?"

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Read my comment again and dont skip the part about him being well recieved on Fox News and Republican town halls. Its right there why ignore it? Was kamala as well recieved by fox news viewers?