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[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

I am looking at other photos. I can also see "Ne Desit Virtus" (Let Valor Not Fail) with a sword. That's a symbol from the 187th Infantry Regiment. I also see the Chi Rho symbol, a Greek symbol for the name of Christ. Another tattoo is "MDCCLXXV" for 1775. Above that tattoo is an American Flag with a gun superimposed on it. I am not sure if these mean a recalling of the US War for Independence. The gun looks modern but could also serve as a bridge to the modern military of the US. On his other arm is "Deus Vult."

Broadly speaking, these tattoos suggest both military service and Christian identity.

Not found are any symbols I've seen identified with White Nationalism. No Valknot, swastika, black sun, 88 symbol, Confederate symbolism, etc.

Edit: The photo I was looking at is here: [https://i.imgur.com/kkroDES.png].

[–] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Deus Vult has indeed been co-opted by white supremacists along with a lot of crusader/christian symbolism.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Almost like its coded so as to not blatantly say "I'm a white supremist" while also clearly signaling to people he is.

Are people just learning about plausible deniability?

Now that said, sure this could be a nothing burger, but when coupled to be right wing....

What's that saying?

You find me a nazi I can sure bet they'd be voting Republican.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Are people just learning about plausible deniability?

No the people in this thread are deliberate nazis trying to normalize that shit and your instances are such trash that they don't get moderated

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

as if the crusaders were egalitarian

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 5 points 13 hours ago

Only USAians will see somebody with a flag tattoo and not think "this is fascist scum".

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Dude is definitely a nut, but when we start throwing around terms like “white nationalists” for things that are absolutely not white nationalism, it dilutes the impact of claims about people who legitimately are white nationalists.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Political echo chambers have been in "Two Minutes of Hate" mode for years now. Throw every insult imaginable at your opponents. Even if it doesn't fit, even if it doesn't make sense. Just hold someone up and go "This is the bad man! Boo the bad man! Boooooo!" Anyone who cares ask "Why are we booing? And what makes this man bad?" Is immediately silenced by others because it's just so obvious he's a bad man. Look at all the other people booing him!

Meanwhile his face is digitally changed to a bleating goat, and the people cheer.

This happens on both right and left wing echo chambers.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago

Hi, I’ve never heard of adl.org, but I searched for Jerusalem cross on this site and found no results. Does that work as confirmation that this symbol is NOT a white nationalist symbol?