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[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 148 points 1 day ago (55 children)

As long as the fediverse has a barrier to entry for most people of mandating choosing a server first, it will never become the mainstream choice.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

Yeah, things requiring choosing a instance like, say, email, are doomed to fail

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

I’m guessing you meant this sarcastically, but you may have been right for the wrong reasons. Look at this graph, by the metric of the way the fediverse works that is a failure. Apple and Google are massively dominant because people don’t want to think about it and most just go with their phone os maker who makes them create one when setting it up, and there is no fediverse server equivalent to that.

a graph of email users by domain. apple and gmail dominate.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So you are saying Mastodon won't take off because people need to choose a server but also because having a "default" where majority will ptobably end up is bad - but this is literally the solution to the problem you mentioned

[–] med@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's the solution on the user experience side, but not the backend/server side. For both infrastructure and idealogical reasons. These two things don't have to be the same.

Disney parks wants park visitors to feel like their exploring, but design in such a way that thepy don't actually stray that far from the preferred paths. Also they have clear sign posting.

There's no reason the fediverse can't design the opposite. Helping users into feeling like there's a set path, and that they're doing the right thing, while subtly encouraging exploration.

It's just the opposite of where all talent and techniques of internet software design are right now, so it's going to take some work.

Edit: Most people don't jump into a hedge to get off the main road, they find a small, unplanned trail or desire path, then learn to navigate the jungle when that path ends.

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