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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Every single one of those answers is straight out of the mouths of Fox News. If you don't disable open nationwide propaganda broadcasts, you'll never fix the problem.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago

This is the problem. The grievances are largely not legitimate. They are regurgitated outrage of the day. The moment you deal it they are on to the next manufactured outrage.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There is no counter propaganda. When Trump lied and said that millions of migrants are coming over the border and committing crimes, the democrats turned around and tried to pass a republican border bill.

They could have counter messaged about how 1. millions were not coming across and 2. illegal immigrants are overwhelmingly just regular people who pay taxes and commit less crimes on average than citizens.

Can we please start holding the democrats responsible for their failures instead of blaming literally everything else.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Can we please start holding the democrats responsible

Can we please stop pretending that no one wants that and just making it the only answer every time someone wants someone to stop doing something else shitty? YES I want the democrats to be responsible for for a third party to make it in, but this broken record crap is getting old.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

Sorry but I don't understand what you're trying to say.

The overwhelming sentiment I've seen on this website is that voters are stupid and should have voted democrat. I'm asking people to focus their energy on what they can actually change. A third party is not realistic. Pressuring the democratic party is hard, but it's not impossible. They caved to pressure and swapped out Biden.

I'm not saying I have the answers, but I know for sure that laughing at how stupid republicans are is counter productive.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

That would be true if every one of those answers didn't also strongly support AOC, Democrats, or Bernie.

That's the whole point of this exercise. A bunch of deep red voters citing Fox is expected and doesn't tell us anything new. When a bunch of deep vlue voters do that, something is going on.

We normally expect AOC and Bernie supporters to be very Blue. If Fox is resonating with those voters we should really be asking ourselves, "Why?"
Why is it that some Democrats hear Fox News and immediately judge them as naked propaganda while other Democrats give them consideration?

edit: grammar