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[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

We tried anarchy in Europe once, after the fall of the Roman empire.

It worked out so well, feudalism ended up being a better choice. Took us about 1000 years to see a predominance of republics again, although Italian city states got there first.

Turns out without organized states, letting a large number of people self organize ends up being a free for all for chieftains and warlords trying to sieze power for themselves. We ended up not writing history for hundreds of years, because everyone was focused on trying to find any sort of stability. We called it the dark ages. Feudalism was simply the strongest warlords managing to hold power for long enough so that people didn't see slaughter every year and could experience peace long enough to farm and craft. Even they had to come up with rules of casus belli (justification for wars), a claim system, heraldry and succession to prevent an all out slaughter like before.

[–] Prunebutt 1 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Why are you posting in an anarchist community? You clearly have no idea about anarchist theory, so please bugger off.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Hey i might not agree with anarchy, but it doesn't mean i don't like to hear about other people's political views and see what they think.

After all, how can one grow being only exposed to one's own political views ? I will disagree with you, sure, but i mean no disrespect for your opinions. I respect them as if they were my own and i think the world is richer with people who think outside the box and challenge the status quo. We should leave no page unturned.

[–] Prunebutt 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But you're trying to dunk on anarchism with your shallow understanding of history and learly without any idea of what anarchism stands for. Excuse me if that doesn't speak for your open-mindedness concerning anarchism.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I didn't mean to come off as dunking. Disagreement is part of discourse, I'm afraid and not necessarily dispargement of your beliefs. If you don't have the patience to discuss the fundamentals of your beliefs with your fellow man, then i suppose we've got nothing further to discuss about this matter. There is no need to act this defensive with everyone trying to engage with you on your political beliefs on this thread.

I'm sorry this discussion didn't turn out the way i intended and regret we couldn't learn from each other this day, but i wish you a better continuation of your day!

[–] Prunebutt 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anarchism is- due to a lot of state propaganda - a quite misunderstood ideology. I need to explain my worldview on pretty much a daily basis. So I hope you understand that I'm not always in the mood to go over the basics time and time again. That is why I posted on an explicitly anarchist community without therequirement for thorough analysis why one thinks that way. This is why I was acting so defensive.

Imagine going into a queer space and asking: "But what do you mean by 'non-binary'? There are men and there are women - that's a biological fact!" While you could be asking a legit question, the context where you ask it matters and might get agressive reactions when asked in the wrong context.

Here are the cliff's notes and why your first comment was so ignorant: The european tradition of anarchism arose in the 18th and 19th century and does not mean that "might makes right". Rather, it states that hierarchical power structures should be replaced with horizontal power structures where people get a say in political matters proportional to how much they're affected by it. This would result in a more peaceful, just and efficient world, as it fosters mutual aid and cooperation, instead of social Darwinist notions of competition and exploitation of the weak.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you for explaining it to me. I can understand someone saying such a thing in a non binary community, we're all ignorant about something.

Anyway, i would like to ask more questions and discuss what you said but apparently there's a new mod rule that says we need to understand anarchy to be here and people are not here to educate us. Since it's a rule i won't be able to participate further since i recognize i don't actually understand anarchy so i suppose it's time to leave the community.

I wish you all the best though.

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