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And? "They would not be fit to stand up against Trump" is a statement as baseless as "that coalition needed to die". Just because they are a neo-liberal rag hating on a government not sharing their delusion doesn't make it true. I ommited that part because it adds nothing. I could have used that quote instead of the one about the hated coalition finally dying for the exact same argument.
That's only half the story. They sued for a practice they used a hundred of times in the past. Not because it makes sense, not because it will improve anything (in fact that strict interpretation of the law will make their future work as well as all state governments harder). They did it because they saw a chance to obstruct the government, consequences be damned.
No it can't. Because just like this article "the government is bad and incompetent and tries to destroy Germany!!!!" is screamed by every noe.liberal rag out- but especially inside Germany for 3 years. And then boosted by right-wing propagandists on social media, too.
There is no alternativer government in Germany's future. It's either tone-deaf conservatives with a debt fetish (and a million other issues like corruption, fossil fuel addiction, Russia-cuddling) or nazis. Or both if the constant shift of conservatives to parrot far-right propaganda and populism and their totally insane statements basically calling all actual democratic parties off-limits for coalition for often absurd reasons is any indication.
No, this is coming from reality. If telling you a simple well-known and documented fact is "talking about party politics" you really can't be helped anymore because you are either trolling or intentionally ignoring reality.
Yes it is. "The coalition of all other democratic parties has failed as it should! We need a new government!" is exactly that. It is the statement to go back to moronic conservative policies of slow decay and corruption or abandon democracy. Those are the two option in actual reality. But guessing irrelevant facts like polls and party programs would be "party politics", too...
There is no future of standing together against the outside. There is an inside danger of going back to slow decay... only that it's actually accelarating right now. There is an inside danger of nazis coming back to power in Germany. And there is an inside danger of both happening (as the faction of decay and corruption is already testing the waters how much lies about foreigners being to blame for everything the public accepts without backlash). And then there are the few remaining other democratic parties. You know... the coalition that needed to die because they were so utterly incompetent that infrastructure decaying for decades under conservative rule decided to crumble from utter frustration, so helpless that even electrons got confused and wouldn't pass those totally modern 1980s copper cables fast enough anymore, so stupid that the poor people in the country had no choice but to listen to Russian trolls and vote for literal nazis.
But I know... that's too much party politics for you. Just say you didn't know anything when you wake up in ruins. Did work for most people the last time, too.
Your whole tirading always fails at this point, because the article criticises the debt brake. You bark up the wrong tree.