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It seems to me that Republicans and the Christian Nationalists they are in bed with are going to be immovably pro-Israel. How do we prevent our government from participating in this genocide as these new politicians take power?

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 95 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Lol.

Too late.

Palestine will cease to exist.

Why?

Because Donald Trump only helps those who he can directly benefit from. Palestine cannot benefit him. Israel can.

If you want to help Palestine, build a time machine, go back in time, and tell every liberal/independent fool who voted 3rd party or abstained from voting over the whole Palestine thing to do the smart thing instead.

Elections have consequences, and every last American is about to find that out the real hard way.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If got time machine, go back and stop all religion from forming, problem solved atheist utopia

[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would go back further. 400,000 years back, with weapons to eradicate the human species. We are anathema to this planet's other life. Humans are a toxic disease.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But then neanderthal gets evolve and world problems happen anyway with other hominid in charge.

Maybe we go back to dino

Go back and smack that fucking fish with a rock, as soon as it tries to leave the ocean.

I could have been a fucking shark you little asshole

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Palestine will cease to exist.

You mean Israel has been trying, and failing, to do since 1948?

You sure do give white supremacists a lot of credit, don't you?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean Israel has been trying, and failing, to do since 1948?

Have they tried as hard as they're trying right now? Did they have someone named Donald Trump who was interested in helping them, or at least entirely getting out of their way while they do it, instead of putting up some form of resistance to the idea of them wiping Palestine out?

You sure do give white supremacists a lot of credit, don’t you?

I wouldn't call it credit. I'd call it reading a history book and undestanding how far white supremacists are willing to go when given enough power.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have they tried as hard as they’re trying right now?

Nope. They have never been this desperate.

Did they have someone named Donald Trump who was interested in helping them

The (so-called) "west" has been interested in helping them since 1948. That's why they have the kind of firepower now they could only have dreamt of in 1948 - and they are failing nonetheless.

or at least entirely getting out of their way

The US isn't standing in their way. Palestinians with RPG-7s are standing in their way.

white supremacists are willing to go when given enough power.

White supremacism gave itself all the power it wanted all over the world. And yet, despite this power, one by one the colonialist chickens was forced to come home to roost after the failure of white supremacism to remain dominant in the colonized world. It's now the US's turn to experience that failure.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US isn’t standing in their way. Palestinians with RPG-7s are standing in their way.

If you think Palestine is going to survive for much longer, then you have an optimism I can only dream of. Even if Trump simply stands out of the way. Which is unlikely, because Donald Trump only helps those who can benefit him and Israel can benefit him. So expect more of our BOOM BOOMs to end up there in the near future.

Palestine is done.

one by one the colonialist chickens was forced to come home to roost after the failure of white supremacism

Yes, and the last time they got REAL power it took millions of lives and an unquantifiable amount of money/resources to put them back down.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you think Palestine is going to survive for much longer,

The literal ex-commander of the Gaza division doesn't share your denialism. about Israel's chances.

Like I said... you give white supremacism a lot of credit.

So expect more of our BOOM BOOMs

You mean the ones that are already there?

Yes, and the last time they got REAL power it took millions of lives

Oh no... they were costing millions of lives looooong before Mussolini gave it a name. And western liberal society was perfectly fine with it both before and after as long as it remained in the colonized world.

It's almost as if liberalism simply accepts that a bit of fascism every now and then is simply the cost of doing business.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The literal ex-commander of the Gaza division doesn’t share your denialism. about Israel’s chances.

Gonna need more than the opinion of an ex-commander. I've heard a lot of ex-military say things. Look at Michael Flynn. Not exactly an icon of honesty and trustworthyness.

Like I said… you give white supremacism a lot of credit.

That's because history has taught me to be very, very concerned with the capabilities of organized white supremacism.

It’s almost as if liberalism simply accepts that a bit of fascism every now and then is simply the cost of doing business.

This seems like an emotional opinion.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Look at Michael Flynn.

So, you chose an example from another country that also cannot win it's wars despite an overwhelming technological and logistical advantage over it's victims?

The Palestinians doesn't seem to have any problems trusting theirs. I wonder why?

That’s because history

History is not an excuse to assign white supremacism any kind of "superiority."

This seems like an emotional opinion.

Really? I find it funny that a person that claims to base their opinion on history doesn't seem to understand the intimate link between liberalism and fascism.

[–] VirusMaster3073@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel even worse since I did vote for Harris, although live in a red ass state so it doesn't amount to much (hopefully I'll move out next year).

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I definitely recommend getting out while you can. Move somewhere that affords you more rights and has a stronger economy.

I can't afford to move to another country though (neither can most Americans), so I can only move to a state that isn't red. As much as I'll still have to deal with President Trump, at least a non-Republican state would try to mitigate/fight back in ways

I'm planning to move to Puerto Rico, which unlike every other state/territory in the country, its party system does not align with the national one (similar to Quebec in Canada), but more politicians there are nationally affiliated with Democrats than with Republicans, and from what I know, while Trump enjoys support among a chunk of stateside Puerto Ricans much like other Hispanics, Trump isn't very popular there considering he neglected them after Hurricane Maria and tried to sell it, as well as the more recent "island of garbage" shenanigans