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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Here's the thing man: It doesn't matter one bit if you and I think they were terrible people for not voting Harris despite all the very valid reasons you have listed why they should have. (All of which I agree with.)

Bottom line: Dems didn't sell themselves to those voters in a way that worked. We can be outraged that it didn't work, but it didn't work.

So, we can wring our hands about how awful our fellow man is for not seeing the clear moral imperative that we do (exactly like the Genocide-Joe folks have been doing for months), or we can recognize that Dems need to start doing things differently.

Personally I'm of the opinion that unless they truly are just there to put up a token show of resistance against R while serving the same goals (and I'm not yet cynical enough to really believe that), they need to stop with this "let's move to the right and try for some R votes" crap. It's not getting them any R votes, and it's clearly pissing off a lot of D. Edit: And it's ratcheting the entire country rightward.

In my 50+ years they have never really moved to the left for more than a brief teaser. Let's see them seriously push for some Bernie or AOC crafted policies, etc. Some actual progressive fire. Stop treating the left like political suicide, and stop treating Republicans like they can be reasoned with.