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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the people I know and spoke to all just said “I didn’t even vote, I couldn’t stomach it.” And the people who didn’t vote because they were put off by the choices don’t really get reliably surveyed—if anything we might find out a small sample size’s opinions months down the road, but more leftist circles are so disillusioned from being asked to plug their ears, hold their nose and vote for neoliberalism with a heavy splash of neocon garnish thrown in that they don’t engage. We can’t keep ignoring that segment of people. Some of them went to vote third party, but when you’re talking about a 4% difference, a lot desperately needs to be said of anyone left of Bernie madoff being written off as “extreme left.”

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah. Any party that gets desperate enough to court actual progressives will get a big boost.

That said, courting racists also seems to be pretty effective.

I choose to believe in a world where the second option is getting less viable while the first is becoming more viable, with time. But that's just a matter of faith (with at least a little bit of evidence from history).

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Courting racists is effective because disillusioned leftists DO TEND to metamorphose into racists and fascists over the long term. They get upset their party and politics are stagnating, get upset at the lack of political traction, and wind up eventually blaming other people. You see it more often in young people, but it definitely happens.

[–] draneceusrex@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

The MAGA Alt-media and then add Fox is super prolific if not mainstream at this point. They've gaslighted so effective that both Black males and Hispanics is shifting toward the GOP. The left would need to equal that push.