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One of the independents is Bernie Sanders.
Manchin and Sinema were both capital-D Democrats at the time they did everything you wanted.
They did NOT do everything. It fact we barely got them to do much. All this information is publicly available. Their voting records are available to see. None of this is hidden. They are the primary reason most of the bills that DID pass were almost completely neutered because they were negotiated down or stalled. This also happened only a few years ago. We are not talking about last decade.
God damn, you're bad at reading. First you act like Manchin and Sinema were independents when they were blocking shit for you, and now you're ignoring parts of my sentence to make it contrary to what I said.
Manchin and Sinema did everything that YOU WANTED THEM TO DO. They blocked legislation. That's all you wanted.
There is no point in arguing with you since you selectively pretend to be unable to read.
I'm not sure where the confusion is. My whole point in that those two shits (Manchin and Sinema) did not vote with the party and blocked legislation. They worked against progressive legislation. Many of the bills had progressive policies that were taken out because of those two idiots. I'm for progressive policies but even I recognize the Democratic party was held hostage by these two shits. I thought I was clear???
Right. We voted for Democrats. We gave Democrats the seats they needed. They didn't vote in the lockstep Democrats demand from their voters.
But you make excuses for the party that always finds the no votes to kill them.
Held hostage. Sure. Oh no. Just enough Democrats voted against legislation that party leadership didn't want. There are always enough Manchins.
Now selectively forget how to read again.
I don't know what your argument is any more. Sinema and Manchin were always moderates. Democrats can't perform miracles if they don't have enough votes. Do you have any suggestions how they could have done it with just a slim majority held back by two moderates? What's your plan? I'm listening.
This entire conversation has shown that this is a lie.
So... Now we've pivotted to ad homs