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The Democratic party refused to understand that courting the right doesn't work, and now it's cost them the election
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this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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Good job getting Trump elected.
Pretty impressive since I'm in Ireland. And you're the one trying to justify not voting.
Who said they didnt vote? If you support a genocide you are the problem.
Aww dude. Get off the high horse more a moment before the next thing comes along and you forget all Palestine.
How is allowing the person who will support even more genocide better?
you think you're going to provide a new argument I havent heard in the last year with this hot take?
if you want to discuss shades of genocides you're comfortable with. feel free. I'm not interested. I stop at any. I'm sorry your preferred candidate didn't meet that very low bar and lost. truly I am. learn from this and demand better.
and frankly? she lost. it was already demonstrated how absolutely horrible of a campaign she ran, empirically. I no longer need to argue on this topic anymore. the proof is in the pudding. you guys supported a genocidal candidate in a party that loathes violence and tried absolutely toxic brow beating people with 'lesser evil` nonsense so they tuned out and didn't vote for you.
you were warned. we told you what we were doing. and you decided that 'genocide is a good hill to die on for harris'. even if you magically convinced me it was in my best interest she win (which you didn't need to, I already knew this, Im from a safe state, I could have just let you idiots blissfully lose); you'd still need to manage 19.9999million more people to fucking show up. 🤷
next time learn that convincing 1 person they need to shift (harris) is the easier target. esp for something as trivial as don't fucking genocide.
Please get off your high horse and read. It'll help you not look like an insufferable ass.
Wrong person :)
That's not the gotcha you think it is. You just admitted to jumping into an argument without context.
Not something you should be proud of.
Lol sorry you were quoting yourself from 5 messages ago. Thought you were quoting me. And i never said i was from ireland (since im not). Nor does it matter in the context of the conversation were your from. My points still stand.
They (the Democrats) were told what was going to happen, they ignored it, and got absolutely crushed. I dont know what to say except the idiocy is astounding.
And anyone defending that position by saying how dare you not support harris because trump! Needs to stfu and do some self reflection. If trump is as bad as you say, well then maybe you should have told harris (and her supporters, especially you irish child) to stfu and just give the muslims what they wanted for the greater good.
The idea that the people saying 'stop murdering us' should stfu and get in line for the greater good is fucking hilariously selfish by the people telling them that.
The polls had been signaling for months that switching on gaza increased likely hood of voters voting Democrats by 30-40%. Well you saw what happened. So kindly fuck off. I live here and have to deal with the fallout of you idiots.