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[alt text: a screenshot of a tweet by @delaney_nolan, which says, "Biden/Harris saw this polling and decided to keep unconditionally arming Israel". Below the tweet is a screenshot from an article, which states: "In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they'd be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they'd be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely."]

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[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Biden/Harris fucked up on more than just Gaza. Biden took action to address inflation, but Americans have continued to feel like their economic situation is worse off than it was 4 years ago. This is because grocery store and gas prices remain inflated, while the average American's income has stagnated. In short: corporate greed. Biden has done little to address corporate greed, and Harris did little to assure Americans that she would combat corporate greed or make Americans feel better about their personal finances. All evidence suggested that she would be even cozier with the billionaires than Biden was. Not hard to see why people stayed home when they felt like their choices were a billionaire and a billionaire-sympathizer.

In short, STOP BLAMING YOUR ALLIES. Trump's win is HARRIS'S FAULT.

[–] Sas@beehaw.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you are not trying to make allies, that's fine. Just don't expect to ever win another election.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't. I also don't believe we're ever going to get another (fair) election, thanks to your inaction. The rule of law is finished, because:

  • A convicted felon, in the middle of four separate criminal indictments
  • Known to have raped his wife
  • Raped a 14-year-old, probably raped a bunch of others with Epstein
  • Bragged about sexually assaulting many other women
  • Incited the Jan 6th riot to storm the White House and threaten to kill the vice president, as well as many other Congresspeople
  • Stole boxes and boxes of top secret CIA documents
  • Send many of those top secrets to foreign agents, including Putin, which got CIA agents killed
  • Praises dictators and the way they rule out in the open
  • Put three Supreme Court justices who are currently dismantling whatever judicial ideals the government has

That guy, he got voted president. If he can get re-elected after doing all of that shit, instead of being put in prison, then the rule of law is finished. We don't really have a functional government that punishes criminals. We're on the level of Brazil in terms of government corruption now, and quickly sliding into Turkey or Nazi Germany by the next decade.

Be sure to thank your fellow trans Beehaw Lemmy users [he/him] for deciding that your protest non-vote is more important than their lives, while they have their medical rights stripped, and their faces curb-stomped by an already-hostile public.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for assuming you know everything about me and what I am about. I voted for Harris. But unlike you, I respect the decision of people who didn't, because genocide is a pretty fucking fair red line to draw. If both sides are advocating genocide, I can respect that someone might feel like the entire American project is failed and fascism will be essentially the same. I am not trans, but I have talked to trans people in my life who were extremely committed to withholding their vote until like, this week. They knew they were potentially sacrificing their own rights, but voting for self-preservation felt selfish when entire cities are being wiped out by Israel. Ultimately, everyone I personally know in that camp decided to hold their nose and vote for Harris.

But go on assuming things about your allies and sowing division, I guess. It won't help anything, but whatever makes you feel better about Trump winning.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

their non-vote is a fucking fantasy… their non-vote is going to cause palestinians to lose their lives… because they didn’t have the fucking spine to make a decision that actually effects the outcome, their childish protest is going to cause lives to be lost

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are not my ally. You are useful idiot to my enemies at best, and my direct enemy at worst.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

what makes me not your ally?