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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Obama won his election after being a good bit to the right of either Biden or Harris. I think most of what's changed since then is the awesome power of the influence operations which succeed at creating alternate realities for people where Trump is important to vote for, and Harris is important not to vote for, depending on the person being targeted.

I'm not trying to be closed-minded about it, and maybe my meme as applied to you was unfair. I'm a little bit on edge when talking with the "what the Democrats did wrong" crowd on Lemmy, since a lot of them also like to make up imagined sins for the Democrats, helping to create that alternate reality, to go alongside any well-intentioned criticism they are giving.

The bottom line is, the Democrats lost for a variety of reasons some of which were their fault and some weren't, and we are thoroughly fucked as a result. I don't think people realize how bad it's going to be.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 3 points 17 hours ago

Obama was about as moderate as Harris and Biden. I'd even say his campaign was more progressive than theirs. He's been the only Democratic candidate to run on a platform of change in the last two decades. All the others have run on a platform of the status quo, even Biden.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

This is correct. Propaganda works, its just that simple.