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[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

blame Harris. The voters told her they would stay home if she didn't denounce genocide. She continued to ignore them and support genocide, so voters stayed home. The voters literally told her what to do to win and she didn't do it.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, now those voters have genocide in Gaza and a new one in Ukraine, plus the people who are dying because they can't get medical abortions.

Great job.

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, if a politician sees the polls that say "Don't back genocide" and still pledges to back genocide to pander to the mythical moderate conservative, why are people still obligated to vote for them? Because they're the lesser of two evils? Clearly they don't give a flying fuck what their constituents want.

When they chided "who else are you going to vote for?" In 2016, they got a resoundingly clear answer: "Nobody." But it's supposed to be different now? The Democrats need to step off the stage and progressives need to step up, because it's obvious they can't win elections on being Republican Lite.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

So, now we're looking at genocides in Gaza and Ukraine and the possibility of mass arrests in America.

Congratulations.

If people die because of your moral stand, it's not really that moral.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

why are people still obligated to vote for them?

because now you have a “blank check” for expanded genocide. congrats. that was a fucking masterful plan

there were 2 choices… you don’t get a 3rd choice - you can argue it was a choice for the future, but this round anyone who didn’t vote is partly responsible for the additional lives that will be lost, the rights curtailed, and the erosion of your due process

That's nice dear, but there is always a third choice.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 11 points 1 day ago

The media literally told the voters what to do if they didn't want whatever new law enforcement Trump invents kicking down their door to take them away, and they didn't do it.

There's some blame to apportion on a few different sides.

"It is Nixon himself who represents that dark, venal and incurably violent side of the American character that almost every country in the world has learned to fear and despise. Our Barbie-doll president, with his Barbie-doll wife and his boxful of Barbie-doll children is also America's answer to the monstrous Mr. Hyde. He speaks for the Werewolf in us; the bully, the predatory shyster who turns into something unspeakable, full of claws and bleeding string-warts on nights when the moon comes too close… "

"If the current polls are reliable... Nixon will be re-elected by a huge majority of Americans who feel he is not only more honest and more trustworthy than George McGovern, but also more likely to end the war in Vietnam. The polls also indicate that Nixon will get a comfortable majority of the Youth Vote. And that he might carry all fifty states... This may be the year when we finally come face to face with ourselves; finally just lay back and say it — that we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable. The tragedy of all this is that George McGovern, for all his mistakes... understands what a fantastic monument to all the best instincts of the human race this country might have been, if we could have kept it out of the hands of greedy little hustlers like Richard Nixon. McGovern made some stupid mistakes, but in context they seem almost frivolous compared to the things Richard Nixon does every day of his life, on purpose."

-Hunter S. Thompson, 1972

And that was Nixon. Trump is infinitely darker, more twisted and dangerous.