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They say that people who don't build battery banks while wearing a sweater will cry about the lack of battery banks in double fur coats. :)

Since today was possibly the last "sweater" weekend here, morning frost is a reality and snow has fallen 500 km northwards...

...I decided that I would be among the first and not the second group. :)

Coincidence has given me an almost unused (43 000 km driven) battery bank of a Mitsubishi i-MIEV (a crap car, don't buy unless you are an EV mechanic).

But in my house, there is already a 24V battery bank made of Nissan Leaf cells and I'm worried about lack of space and fire hazard (if lithium batteries burn, you typically need tons of water to make them do anything else - I have only one ton and pumping it requires that same battery bank).

So I decided that I'd build a new 48V battery bank outside my house, start it up with the MIEV cells and maybe migrate the Leaf cells there later too, after checking and reassembly.

However, winters are cold here and MIEV cells (as I mentioned, the car is crap) lose 30% of their capacity when cold. It thus follows that I must keep my battery warm in winter - and later on, cool in summer. This requires energy. Spending less energy on battery care allows using more energy for useful things. :)

Thus it follows that I need a battery enclosure. :) It must have wheels so construction bureaucrats can be waved away with an explanation (a generator on wheels doesn't need a building permit either). And it must have thermal insulation.

The insulation is PIR foam, 10 cm thick. Maybe I'll make some parts even thicker. The wheeled platform was salvaged from a bankrupt boat factory, I don't know its original purpose. The bottom plywood is 20 mm waterproof ply, and the top layer (PIR is very delicate, don't put batteries directly on PIR) is 9 mm waterproof ply.

The design I stole from an anarchist squat which existed in 2009, where styrofoam was used for a similar purpose, with the difference that squatters used lead acid batteries and their battery room was indoors (now it's advisable to imagine the sound of clattering teeth, it was cold there in winter).

Inside the box, there will be:

  • balancers / equalizers
  • some DC heating ribbon
  • a thermostat or a microcontroller-driven thermometer + relay
  • a circulation fan (thermal stratification is bad)
  • battery monitors with an alarm function
  • a smoke alarm

Since PIR aborsbs sound, the piezo buzzers of the alarm devices will have to be unsoldered and brought to a plastic box on the surface of the enclosure. :)

The arrangement of cells has been chosen to provide access from outside, get a reasonable ratio between volume and surface (avoid flat shape) and to minimize the cutting of materials (several sides are made of PIR sheet cut to length only).

Some more pictures:

End result of today's work:

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[–] Highstronaught@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How did you get the cells, did you buy the car and take the battery out, buy the battery by itself, or buy the cells by themselves?

[–] perestroika 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That was a long story, and I was a fool.

I bought a car that had driven an incredibly short mileage, hoping to restore the battery to working order. Being unfamiliar with it, I was unable to find the fault at first, so I bought a second-hand battery separately to test the car. I found the problem, fixed the car, but now had a batttery with a few dead cells left over. After fruitless attempts to find another person in need of many cells, I decided to use them for my house. :)

[–] Highstronaught@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the info