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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[โ€“] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is not complex at all, it is just genocidal settler colonialism and resistance to it. "Complexity" is just a proxy for being uncomfortable acknowledging this, which is something you should do some introspection on as someone from a German instance. Ever hear of the Holocaust? Of Lebensraum?

Never again means never again for anyone.

[โ€“] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The thing is that I actually mostly agree with you, but I do not think that the other side is entirely illegitimate.

[โ€“] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What legitimacy do you see in Israeli Apartheid? Because, long story short, that's what the Israeli side is selling.

I'm not here for a drawn out debate. I think Israel's settlement program is a major reason why there is no peace and I would find Israel a lot easier to defend if they weren't doing it. It is only one piece of the puzzle though.

[โ€“] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Which part of genocidal racist settler colonists is legitimate to you?