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We had no problems with vaccines or election integrity until Trump. It’s all manufactured nonsense.
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this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2024
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Is OP young or are they deliberately ignoring US history?
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/666812854/the-florida-recount-of-2000-a-nightmare-that-goes-on-haunting
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16640082/donna-brazile-warren-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-rigged
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16599036/donna-brazile-hillary-clinton-sanders
https://daily.jstor.org/the-deadly-bilibid-prison-vaccine-trials/
The long and tortured history of bad American medicine and crooked elections is a reminder of the crimes of privatization, eugenics, and white nationalism.
The irony is how often these crimes are invokes as an excuse to deny health care provision via public institutions, to encourage further eugenics policies, and to facilitate white nationalist control of the country.
How many times am I going to see a MAGA Republican denounce Medicaid on the grounds that its too nice to black people or obstruct ballot access to college voters, on the grounds that these systems are corrupt?
How many times am I going to see liberals insist "This is just what people want" as they tear up another health care public option and let the GOP further stack the SCOTUS?
This is like like pointing out how bad the drizzle was before the hurricane hit.
Yeah, it's kinda like we didn't fall out of a coconut tree, and everything exists in context. It's kinda like these past incidents inspired modern day people to abuse these loopholes. And btw, Gore losing the election killed 8 billion people due to climate change, so it was significantly worse that what Trump did in terms of impact.
Are you able to have reasoned discussion or are you only able to parrot reactionary speech when you get tilted?
Who said I was angry? You are projecting your own emotions into a perfectly reasonable assessment. Russian bots have been proven to interfere in the past elections just as you are now. Asking if you are puts it front and center.
It's not reasonable, it's just an easy talking point you go to when you get upset. Like it's pretty thought terminating, right? And do you ask every commenter if they are a Russian spy, or are you not asking because you disagree with what I said? You claim I'm "interfering in elections," - how? How am I, as a voter who is exercising her right to free speech to criticize the government, doing anything that would interfere in an election? Please elaborate how that's not a baseless accusation.
Also, don't you see how it's a stretch to say that "Russian spies interfered in elections," and then jump to claiming I'm somehow interfering in an election and ALSO then a Russian spy? Many other countries interfere in elections. What's your evidence I'm Russian specifically and not, say, Chinese? Yet again showing this is based on reactionary rhetoric and not anything in reality or with evidence.
Also PS - I voted for Kamala. Criticizing Clinton is not the same as saying we shouldn't vote for Kamala. Stop sucking Dem boots
You don't know any sort of research I have done or anything about my background. There is actual proof that Russians used social media, paid for by Cambridge Analytica funded by Trump's inner circle.
Creating such discourse was their tactic to manipulate fringe undecideds to lean towards Trump. But don't let facts get in your way when you know so much about so little.
Yes, there is proof that in 2016, Russian agents did that. I haven't disputed that.
The reason I dispute the application of this knowledge to me is that its wrong. Like I'm a literal US voter with an Only Fans that connects to my US issued ID. It's pretty clear I'm not Russian. And given how antitrump and for democracy I am, I'm not on the Trump pay roll either.
They didn't create this discourse. The democrats DID IT. Like Clinton literally rode on Epstein's plane. That's his fault. They literally had a conflict of interest with their donations to the DNC and running as candidates. That's genuine issues they did. Criticizing that, engaging in the definition of critical thinking, is part of the democratic process so we can stop it from happening again. That Republicans brought up the factual things the DNC did as issues is just normal campaigning. Abnormal campaigns were the disinformation the Russian bots put forward which later directly resulted in American deaths when it came to COVID.
Do you like, talk to real people irl about politics? Most people irl aren't diehard DNC or RNC bootlickers. Most people are somewhere in between. That you refuse to tolerate other political opinions besides DNC bootlicking shows how "informed" you are alone.