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[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, Hillary "the annointed" went over swell and the DNC has apparently learned exactly zip from the experience. They're never going to serve the interests of people, only of Capital.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed, which is why progressives need to start as early as possible.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hence why they need to get a primary candidate early. If you can think of some other way to exert pressure, I'm all ears.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First you have to figure out what's going to prevent the DNC from simply saying, "nuh uh."

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To having primaries? I mean sure, if they want to go completely mask off and stop pretending to be a democratic anything.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It sounds like you don't yet understand that the DNC has full authority to determine who is allowed to percolate to Party designated positions. This is why when the DNC kneecapped Bernie Sanders, the courts said,"nah it's a private party- they can do as they please."

So, my point- if progressives did find a candidate to champion, there would be nothing preventing the DNC from simply saying, "no."

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, my point- if progressives did find a candidate to champion, there would be nothing preventing the DNC from simply saying, “no.”

You got a better idea? Because I don't think the even the DNC is that eager to throw an entire wing of their party away.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do not share your optimism.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Again, if you have a better idea, let's hear it.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My guy, you're advocating for tilting at windmills as though more effort will solve this. It's a futile, burnout strategy.

At the minimum, ranked choice voting needs to be put in place, or we will forever be betwixt the same rocks and hard places.

Second, a two-party system is, in itself, a failure. Progressives will never enact enough leverage from within the DNC's grasp; they will need to form a whole new party.

Third, stop trying to get people to pour their energy into "working harder not smarter." Voting is not enough; the votes have to be meaningful to a larger strategy.

Fourth, expect all of these efforts to fail until the legal loopholes allowing Corporate donations and PACs, SuperPACs, and dark money are slammed shut.

Fifth, racism is still a core component of the cultural uphill battle faced by any/all progressive candidates. You CAN apply your individual efforts there.

Sixth, reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and supercharge it for modern times.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

At the minimum, ranked choice voting needs to be put in place

Ranked Choice Voting is a pipe dream with no realistic plan for implementation, particularly in states that don't allow for referenda. Incumbent politicians aren't going to vote for something that jeopardizes their continued incumbency. And that's at best. At worst, it's another in a long list of milestones that centrists present, after which they totally promise that progressives' concerns will be addressed and they won't just come up with another milestone.

The rest of your comment has RCV as a prerequisite.