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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah yes, pollute the prompt. Nice. Reminds me of how artists are starting to embed data and metadata in their pieces that fuck up AI training data.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And all maps have fake streets in them so you can tell when someone copied it

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's interesting. Are there examples of this? I'm assuming they're little one off dead end streets or similar.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trap street - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_street

Example of an entire fictional town: Agloe, New York - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agloe,_New_York

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Neat. Thank you

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminds me of how artists are starting to embed data and metadata in their pieces that fuck up AI training data.

It still trains AI. Even adding noise does. Remember captchas?

Metadata... unlikely to do anything.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

In theory, methods like nightshades are supposed to poison the work such that AI systems trained on them will have their performance degraded significantly.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Read it. I don't think it will have bigger impact than lossy image compression or noisy raytraced images.

[–] lemmysarius@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

The problem with nightshade or similar tools is, that if you leave the changes it makes at too weak a setting, then it can be pretty easily removed. For example GAN upscalers that pre date modern "AI", were pretty much built to remove noise or foreign patterns. And if you make the changes strong enough that they can't be removed by these models (because so much information was lost), then the image looks like shit. Its really difficult to strike a balance here.

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If it can be added programatically it can be removed programatically. It's bullshit.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Wow, I guess cryptography is just fraudulent, who knew

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hashing enters the chat

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago