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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by jcg@halubilo.social to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

I've seen a lot of sentiment around Lemmy that AI is "useless". I think this tends to stem from the fact that AI has not delivered on, well, anything the capitalists that push it have promised it would. That is to say, it has failed to meaningfully replace workers with a less expensive solution - AI that actually attempts to replace people's jobs are incredibly expensive (and environmentally irresponsible) and they simply lie and say it's not. It's subsidized by that sweet sweet VC capital so they can keep the lie up. And I say attempt because AI is truly horrible at actually replacing people. It's going to make mistakes and while everybody's been trying real hard to make it less wrong, it's just never gonna be "smart" enough to not have a human reviewing its' behavior. Then you've got AI being shoehorned into every little thing that really, REALLY doesn't need it. I'd say that AI is useless.

But AIs have been very useful to me. For one thing, they're much better at googling than I am. They save me time by summarizing articles to just give me the broad strokes, and I can decide whether I want to go into the details from there. They're also good idea generators - I've used them in creative writing just to explore things like "how might this story go?" or "what are interesting ways to describe this?". I never really use what comes out of them verbatim - whether image or text - but it's a good way to explore and seeing things expressed in ways you never would've thought of (and also the juxtaposition of seeing it next to very obvious expressions) tends to push your mind into new directions.

Lastly, I don't know if it's just because there's an abundance of Japanese language learning content online, but GPT 4o has been incredibly useful in learning Japanese. I can ask it things like "how would a native speaker express X?" And it would give me some good answers that even my Japanese teacher agreed with. It can also give some incredibly accurate breakdowns of grammar. I've tried with less popular languages like Filipino and it just isn't the same, but as far as Japanese goes it's like having a tutor on standby 24/7. In fact, that's exactly how I've been using it - I have it grade my own translations and give feedback on what could've been said more naturally.

All this to say, AI when used as a tool, rather than a dystopic stand-in for a human, can be a very useful one. So, what are some use cases you guys have where AI actually is pretty useful?

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Or, here me out, we could use roundabouts/traffic circles. No need for AI or any kind of sensor, just physical infrastructure to keep traffic flowing.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely, but there are a few problems with this. First, I live in the US. Americans do NOT know how to negotiate a roundabout. There is a roundabout near my house. The instructions of how to use it are posted on signs as you approach. They are wrong. They actually have inside lanes exiting across the outside lanes that can continue around. So not only is it wrong but it's teaching the locals here what NOT to do at a normal roundabout.

Second, they don't fit at existing intersections.

Third, I think they would be more expensive than just a piece of tech attached to traffic lights that already exist.

I mean the best solution would be some good public transportation, but I'm trying to be more realistic here. That's for more civilized nations. In the US the car rules. And the bigger, the better.

I live in the US. Americans do NOT know how to negotiate a roundabout.

As do I, but I think the main problem is that we don't need to properly learn to use a roundabout, because the only times we have roundabouts are when they're completely unnecessary/unhelpful. The three roundabouts I use most often are:

  • right next to a stoplight, so they get jammed when there are a lot of cars waiting
  • middle of a residential area, with stoplights/stop signs a block or two away preventing too much contention
  • in a somewhat busy area where most of the traffic is going straight, so it functions like a speed bump

If we can figure out those continuous flow intersections, we can figure out roundabouts. We just need to actually use them.

Second, they don’t fit at existing intersections.

They absolutely do, especially at the ones where they'd make the most impact (i.e. busy intersections with somewhat even traffic going all directions). You may actually save space because you don't need special turn lanes. They are a little more tricky in smaller intersections, but those tend to have pretty light traffic anyway.

I think they would be more expensive

Initial cost, sure, because the infrastructure is already there. But longer term, it should reduce costs because you don't need to service all of those traffic signals, you need fewer lanes (so less road maintenance), and there should be fewer accidents, which means less stress on emergency services.

Putting in a new roundabout vs a new signal is a different story, the roundabout is going to be significantly cheaper since you just need to dump a bit of concrete instead of all of the electronics needed for a signal.

In the US the car rules

Unfortunately, yes, but roundabouts move more traffic, so they're even better for a car-centric transit system. If we had better mass transit, we wouldn't need to worry as much about intersections because there'd be a lot less traffic in general.

If we go with "AI signals," we're going to spend millions if not billions on it, because that's what government contractors do. And I think the benefits would be marginal. It's better, IMO, to change the driving culture instead of trying to optimize the terrible culture we have.