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[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because everyone knows that Trump is not going to move on this issue, or really do anything good at all. Dems are supposed to be better than Trump, or at least they certainly insist that they are. People holding Kamala to a higher standard are taking the Dems at their word.

[–] BilliamBoberts@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then they objectively know Trump is the worse option. With the polls as close as they are, the protesters are willing to let trump win which will lead more gazans to suffer and die. These protests feed trump and netanyahu.

[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The protestors want an end to the US facilitating genocide. Most Democrats want fewer, if any, aid to Israel, yet Democrat leadership refuses to budge.

You blame voters for "being willing to let Trump win". Why not blame leadership for hurting their own chances at election by going against their own base?

[–] BilliamBoberts@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I do blame the leaders, all of them who've been complacent in getting meaningful legislation passed to fix the structural issues in our democracy, but now is not the time to risk a fascist getting in to power when there is a very real risk that he will provide more aid to Isreal, possible send our own troops to fight for netanyahu, or worse.

[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The counter-argument to your point is that now is the best time, as voters have the leverage to elect democrats or not. In theory, Dem leadership wants to be elected and requires votes to achieve that goal. Biden met with progressive activists shortly after taking office and promptly told them to fuck off as, since he was already president, they no longer had anything to offer him.

That said, I hear your point and am torn about how I will ultimately vote. I don't live in one of the nine (arguably three) magic states where my vote will actually count, though, so it's a bit of a moot point.

[–] Chapelgentry@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree. Your voice is your vote, no? So you're going to speak on Nov 5th without giving anyone a chance to respond, thus letting Trump be elected?

If not Nov 5th with your vote, then surely all of these antiwar types are protesting in the street and pinging their reps about it?

[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

What? Yes, lots of people are protesting and have been for over a year. I don't know precisely how many of them personally call their reps, I know I have been, but I think the massive, widespread protests combined with polling Democrat voters about their views on the matter makes the message pretty clear. Politicians have had plenty of time to respond.