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Israeli settler leader Daniella Weiss says Palestinians will 'disappear' from Gaza (www.middleeasteye.net)

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An Israeli settler leader has told a conference on Israel's frontier with Gaza that Palestinians will "disappear" from the territory and said that thousands of people stand ready to move there "from north to south”.

Addressing a conference on Monday also attended by Israeli Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Knesset members from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries.

“We came here with one clear purpose: the purpose is to settle the entire Gaza Strip, not just part of it, not just a few settlements, the entire Gaza Strip from north to south,” said Weiss.

Weiss, the leader of Nachala, an orthodox settler movement which organised the conference, said there were six settler groups and more than 700 families looking to settle in Gaza, where more than 42,600 Palestinians have been killed since Israel launched its war against Hamas in October last year following the Hamas-led attacks in southern Israel.

Weiss’s comments were echoed by Ben Gvir, who later told the crowd: “We are the owners of the land”. Ben Gvir also called for Palestinians in Gaza to “voluntarily” transfer to other countries.

Monday’s conference, which was billed by organisers as “a celebration for the preparation of settling Gaza", took place near Reim kibbutz, with the sound of Israel’s ongoing bombardment of northern Gaza audible in the background and with smoke rising over the horizon a few kilometres to the west.

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[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well take a minute to read about the jewish roman wars on wikipedia and get back to me. The history of the zealots faction is one of terrorism and genocide and thats just a fact.
We cant just pretend history doesnt exist.
Nor can we pretend the killing of innocents in the middle east right now is ethical or justified.
Nor can we pretend that pushing back on the extremist wing of far right Judaism equates to antisemitism against all jews.

If you want to play at verbal gymnastics and call that anti semitism go ahead, I couldnt care less-- it just makes me take you all the less seriously when you try to pervert language like that. That word has been flung around as a shield for all kinds of criminal immoral nonsense and its lost the meaning it used to have. Its just a lazy crybully propoganda defense these days.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can peruse my comment history and see how often I argue against zionists and then get back to me on how well I'm doing spreading their propaganda 🙄

The zionist ideology has no relation to ancient Judaism. Aside from its constant allusions to recreating the ancient state of Israel. There is literally no connection. Trying to draw one is to imply that there has been some murderous genocidal element of Jewish people that has existed throughout history and persisted to the present date. Nothing you or anyone else defending the commenter has said makes literally any sense unless you can somehow draw a continuity between ancient Judaism and zionists. You can't. Zionism came to fruition in the 19th century. It was a concerted colonialist project. It has literally not one single thing to do with the supposed actions of ancient Jewish people.

The commenter also was alluding to Jewish people having been responsible for the death of Jesus Christ. Not that they were radical far right. Specifically that they were responsive for the death of Jesus Christ. That notion whatsoever is a literal mainstay of antisemitism. To then try and allude to something about the "jews who killed christ" that persists and is represented to this day in zionism is textbook definitional antisemitism. It's saying that jews are murderous in some underlying inherent way. I don't know what to tell you it's the truth.

Now, before you accuse me of supporting Israel again, a state I literally believe should be dismantled in its entirety and who I know to be controlled by a genocidal party in a genocidal government with a genocidal military leading over a population indoctrinated to support genocide, kindly go do something else. I'm not a psyop or whatever you're going to accuse me of being. I'm not an idiot either, I know what is and isn't antisemitic. Criticism of the state of Israel, of the IDF, of the colonizing ideology of Zionism, none of those things are antisemitic. Trying to say that there is something inherent to Jewish people that makes them nefarious or murderous or evil? That is antisemitic. The commenter made an antisemitic comment. It was removed in like 2 minutes. It was textbook antisemitism. It was not a critique of zionism.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The zionist ideology has no relation to ancient Judaism.

I dont agree. Contrast the zionists with the zealots faction toward the end of the second temple period. The zealots and the zionists are essentially the same group. The zealots genocided the whole region in their time: Roman, Greek, Arabs alike. More than a million murdered to build a "new Israel". The Romans marched in and counter-genocided their asses.

Jewish-Roman wars [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish–Roman_wars] Kitos War [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitos_War]

Ever hear zionists bellyache about how unfair it is that they have been kicked out of countries? After the zionist rebels genocided 240,000 greeks in Cyrpus-- Rome took Cyprus back and jews were unwelcome on the island, even if they came by shipwreck, on pain of death. I think thats an understandable outcome considering how few people bring up WHY that outcome occurred.

This is exactly what people mean when they say its perilous to forget our history. This is a repeat of the jewish-roman wars, again with the genocide and land theft.