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[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Holy shit I didn't know admins in this place were full blown Russian lickers. I don't know about you but I would gladly have my country join nato if that means not ending up like Georgia or now Ukraine twice.

Also congrats on getting Finland to finally join nato btw.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right??? They act like they are concerned about what events could have taken place to ensure that the invasion never happened. Guess what could have occurred that would have been the biggest guarantee that the invasion could never happen? Ukraine joining NATO prior to the invasion....

[–] davel@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cool, maybe the US will blow up its new ally’s pipelines too someday. We are not a trustworthy ally.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

@Samueru @davel Is there something about people from lemmy.ml that makes them only capable of insults as opposed to rational discussions?

[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What rational discussion is to be had when one country is clearly annexing another since 2014 lmao?

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

@Samueru The history goes back way before 2014 and your summation of the situation is inaccurate.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is also a recent academic book (by an Ukrainian academic) about the maidan massacre: The Maidan Massacre in Ukraine: The Mass Killing that Changed the World | SpringerLink

Evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt the far right / oligarchs were behind the mass killing of over 100 people and blame it on the government in a false flag operation. But people in the west will never hear of this. And if they hear they will dismiss it as conspiracy theory or propaganda. So it's really no wonder people like linus react like this.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago

One has to really go out of one’s way to hear it, because corporate media aren’t going to tell it to us, until perhaps twenty or more years from now, when it no longer matters.

[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Yes it goes back to Holodomor and how russia has always treated ukranians as second class citizens.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -1 points 1 month ago

@Samueru I find it humorous that someone would downvote me for suggesting that history goes back more than a decade. Guess they are less than ten years old and think their parents appeared out of nowhere when they were born.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 month ago

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Or that's what this would be on Lemmy.ml. They are all tankies and they get mad when you point out terrible things like facts.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are on the Russian instance my friend. I would strongly recommend finding a new home.

[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What instance do you suggest?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Pretty much any that isn't Lemmy.ml, hexbear or lemmygrad. (And maybe beehaw.social as they have defederated from Lemmy.world)

Just look around and pick one.