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[–] Prunebutt 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Revolution only ever results in a change of masters"

Haiti would like to talk to you.

[–] Nurgus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Slavery finished, replaced with forced labour and serfdom? That Haiti?

[–] Prunebutt 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why you're arguing in favour of literal slavery, but ok. There are other examples:

  • Bavaria in 1919
  • Spain with the CNT/FAI in the 1930s
  • The 1905 revolution in Russia, along with the 1917 revolution
[–] Nurgus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not arguing for slavery, you're misunderstanding the quote. I didn't say the change of masters was inherently no better than the previous masters.

Revolution is always, in every example, a doorway for powerhungry authoritarians to swoop in.

The fact that Haitians were eventually much better off than as slaves doesn't change that.

[–] Prunebutt 1 points 1 month ago

Revolution is always, in every example, a doorway for powerhungry authoritarians to swoop in.

I disagree. Like I said: CNT/FAI Catalonia, 1919 Bavaria and anarchist Ukraine are counterexamples.

If a revolution is thorough enough to eradicate the hierarchical structure of oppression, it doesn't have to be used by authoritarians.