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Found some discussion on hexbear where dbzer0 was once more found to be living rent-free in their heads, but it got me thinking:

I find it telling that tankies will constantly prattle about "critical-support" of fascist chuds like Asad, and red-fash regimes like North Korea, or more often, just unironically bring up bog-standard SocDem capitalism like China as "Actually Existing Socialism" (AES), but will immediately marginalize, dehumanize or expel from their spaces anarchists who don't support AES, or who support market-based forms of socialism (such as mutualism).

Likewise, why not give "critical support" to other SocDems for their good policies? (note, I don't support socdems in either liberal-capitalist of state-capitalist form, I'm just asking questions, philosophically)

I can't quite put into words why this bothers me, but I suspect it's due to the usual hypocrisy I see from them. What do you think of this phenomenon?

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[โ€“] poVoq 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

It is just campism. It doesn't matter what these countries actually do, as long as they are against "the west".

[โ€“] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Since I have you here, what do you think about them calling slkpnk "just aesthetics"? ๐Ÿ™ƒ

[โ€“] ProdigalFrog 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I would suspect they wouldn't say the same about Soviet Futurism Art.

That old Soviet art was designed to inspire, to get people excited for what their world and society could be, to become a scientist or an engineer so you could be a part of making that reality! It was, critically, a goal, something to strive toward. Unfortunately, their ideology and government would keep them from ever realizing what their artists dreamt up.

Solarpunk is, in some ways, acting in a similar vein: giving us a goal to orient toward. But our tools, anarchism, eco-socialism, appropriate technology; they can actually enable and empower us, to make good on their promise.

That's just my two cents, anyway :)

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