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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you destroy the world for taste? I don't get where your question is coming from

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want to be clear what your position is. You're not just encouraging veganism, you're calling on the violence of the police to beat and imprison people who eat meat.

I'm not necessarily arguing against it, I just want the clarity that you finally provided.

It's easy to suggest outlawing stuff without considering the violence necessary for outlawing things. You have clearly considered (and enthusiastically endorse) that violence.

Of course if you imprison all meat eaters but still use oil to harvest, process, and distribute all the plant based foods then the world will still burn, but that's beyond the scope of this particular issue.

[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you perfected strawmanning. I have no idea who you are replying to. There is nothing in there that I wrote.