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Hoping this can be a way to make people think more critically about their choice for US President, maybe even bring opposing sides together to fix the problems we ALL face.

So if you support Trump try to list 3 things you dislike about him and 3 things you like about Harris. Please keep answers serious. Plenty of other places on Lemmy for you to post snappy putdowns.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It isn't possible when one candidate has zero redeeming qualities. Trump accomplished nothing other then undermining democracy, undermining trust in science, and stoking xenophobia. He didn't even accidentally do something right.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He didn't even accidentally do something right.

Despite his best efforts, he did actually leave office. That was the best thing he did his whole presidency.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, he was removed from office. That isn't something he did, that was something that was done to him because he lost an election.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But he still left without military intervention

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He didn't nuke California either!

What a ridiculous bar you are using for leaving office.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The bar of his presidential accomplishments was... Subterranean, so doing the bare minimum that was expected seemed like a major accomplishment.

I live in a blue county of a very red state, so I'm constantly surrounded by conservative nut jobs. It was a difficult decade plus of listening to all of the Obama hate then Trump praising. Bizzarro world was in full effect.

Apologies if I seem at all to be praising His Cheetoship, I wish nothing for him but a very long life in a very small cell, and hopefully the media can recover some sense of integrity.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Trying to overthrow the election and then not getting the military involved is not the bare minimum.

JFC

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It wasn't easy but I found at least three small things I do appreciate about him. I think painting him as the antichrist is as helpful as declaring him as the second coming of Christ. Maybe it's too soon but some kind of outreach needs to occur or the desperation on each side will only increase.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He’s genuinely himself. Even if he contradicts himself I think it all comes from his own head and he’s not taking the standard approach of rehearsing speeches ad nauseum and censoring himself because of what some focus group said.

That is stupid when the person being themselves is a piece of shit. Do you think Hitler being his genuine self is a positive?

He did come out in support of banning bump stocks.

He was also in favor of gun proliferation and he contradicted his opposition to bump stocks because his genuine self is trying to play both sides.

Despite personal views on COVID he did generally support the emergency actions necessary in a pandemic scenario.

He also constantly undermined them by saying covid was a hoax and telling people they didn't need to wear masks or be vaccinated.

Your three things are all stupid and you are praising him for being a terrible person.

Maybe it's a doomed experiment but I think it's possible to praise an act but not praise the actor. I'm hoping small concessions can lead to common ground.

I'll actually amend my first bullet though since I believe Trump is a genuine liar (which is contradictory) and say instead I applaud that he committed us to leaving Afghanistan.