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[–] anonymouse2@sh.itjust.works 74 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Technically, he froze to death.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Technical there was room for two on that door

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone is all "actually it would be impossible" like this bitch did math before telling the guy to go fuck himself.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Only if they both had the knowledge and frame of mind to engi her flotation devices from the life vest rose was wearing. Otherwise the door would have sunk enough for them to freeze to death before rescue came. Provides they knew rescue was coming after a certain time.

Considering one was a socialite, and the other a freelance artist, and both had just almost been killed multiple times... no, I don't think they would have had the foresight to come up with the exact scenario that would have saved them both.

[–] Tin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Cameron tested this. There was room for both on the door, but only in a very specific orientation could they both stay dry. And because she was wearing more clothes than he was, even if Jack makes it out of the water, he's still hypothermic and won't survive.

Edit: It's a NatGeo doc called "Titanic: 25 years later." They're in a pool that's 56 degrees F. You can find it on streaming someplace, but here's a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJph0aIP-U

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Room for 2? Maybe. Buoyancy for 2? No.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

There is a Mythbusters episode on this. Rose literally and figuratively fucked Jack.

https://youtu.be/IPDxtclZzVU?si=73q9yJst9eaD8_wM

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't recall the full episode but a few things stood out.

  • it would be cold as hel, so properly strapping a lifevest around some flotsam seems iffy
  • isn't saltwater more buoyant or is that old fishwife's tale? Also idk if that test body of water is salty.
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, saltwater has more buoyancy, and the higher the salinity, the more buoyant the water.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, saltwater has more buoyancy, and the higher the salinity, the more buoyant the water.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Only if they had the knowledge and abilities (and time to come up with a plan) of two people whose job it is to come up with exactly this kind of thing.

Sure, it was possible. That doesn't make it probable.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Climb on the door" seems like something within their knowledge and abilities.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I take it you didn't actually watch the mythbusters episode, then. If they both just climbed on the door they would have both died. They would have had to jury-rig a contraption using the life-preserver Rose was wearing to survive... barely.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Did they watch the Mythbusters episode?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you'd think she would have tried to get him on the door. What with him being her one true love and all.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And he probably would have said "no, I want you to live" her being his one true love and all.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay? She still didn't try. You don't seem to be realizing that as an obviously silly flaw in the whole idea that they're each other's soulmates.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Did she not? Is that an obviously silly flaw, or just some dumb internet argument keyboard warriors throw out to try and prove how obviously intellectually superior they are?

It's a fucking movie, not a scientific study.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure I'm not showing my intellectual superiority, which I don't have, by saying that maybe she should have tried to let him on the door because she loved him rather than because of some Mythbusters experiment.

[–] Absolute_Axoltl@feddit.uk 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It would somewhat undermine the core of their narrative being a tragedy within a larger tragedy though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean there were other ways of doing that without making it look like she just didn't let him on the door.