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Save the Planet, Put Down that Hamburger (www.nytimes.com)
submitted 1 year ago by RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works to c/climate
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[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I don't support jail for anyone, because it's a bad way to solve crime. I think anyone who eats meat should be sentenced to something productive like community service, or therapy to get to the bottom of why they think they have the right to kill others.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would refuse that community service and therapy. What would happen then?

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

At that point you aren't being punished for the (hypothetical, in this scenario) "crime" of eating meat, but instead the crime of not obeying your sentencing.

In the same way if I refuse to pay a parking ticket they can (eventually) lock me up for noncompliance. You wouldn't make the argument that I'm being locked up for a parking ticket in the same way no one would argue you bring locked up for avoiding your community service sentence is akin to being locked up for eating meat.

Granted, a less extreme approach would just be to tax the everliving shit out of meat production and use the proceeds to mitigate the environmental impacts as well as provide assistance for the lower income families who may be otherwise disproportionately impacted. Sin taxes can be very effective if done properly.

Either way, you're just being hyperbolic.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Well then under communism, you wouldn't be invited to any of the cool parties, and you'd be refused service at most non-essential places like restaurants and gyms. People would think you're a weirdo.