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The dumbest rule that fortunately was only "tried" to be enforced was no gun racks in the student vehicles in the parking lot. This is was a rural area where for almost a hundred years people would have guns in the gun-racks in their trucks mostly. But with fire arm thefts etc it was pretty rare to actually have a gun loaded or unloaded in the gun-rack. Generally you'd just have the gun in the rack if you were hunting, or patrolling your ranch or whatever.
Then Columbine happened and suddenly gun-racks and leather trench coats, aka dusters, another extremely common piece of clothing in a rural ranching town were priority number one by reactionary's. Hundreds of otherwise lawful students were suspended, ticketed, arrested etc and finally after several months I assume someone had a "are we the baddies?" moment, and coupled with hundreds of lawsuits, the school system got a new superintendent and suddenly gun racks and dusters were back to being treated as the mundane items they are.
I guarantee you there was never a "are we the baddies" moment, because that requires critical thinking and self reflection.
It was entirely because of lawsuits.
So what you're saying is, people did - rarely - leave guns unattended in a car? Students no less?And that is legal? Murica gets more absurd every time I read about it.
Under no circumstances in the wrold would I leave my unsecured guns in a car.
My buddy and I used to go hunting before school so we'd end up with guns in the truck if we were running late. Generally made an effort to hide them and keep everything locked at least
My dad told me stories about his school days, when he's bring a rifle into the school, put it in his locker, then go shooting after school with his friends. This would have been in rural Canada in the 60s.
This was like 15 (fuck has it been 20?) years ago in a state with very strict gun control. We were kind of in the lull between columbine and sandy hook but idk. Rural area. If you see a shotgun next to some camo and duck decoys your first thought isn't mass shooter
I mean generally I agree with you, but much like you have your phone with you constantly, you will sometimes leave it somewhere you normally wouldn't accidentally. So if you've had the gun in your truck all day, you may just leave it in the rack once in a while. As for "students" yea, it would be pretty weird to grow up in that area and not be very familiar with firearms. It would be like being amazed and surprised that most students had been driving since they were 14, or were riding horses at 8. It's pretty mundane.
No I won't leave my gun "accidentally" anywhere. Handling a gun means "accidentally" is not part of your vocabulary.
I'm a gun owner myself, so I'm not the pearl clutching type but this is genuinely unthinkable to me. Absurd and a little scary, to be honest.
You sound like the bad guy in the original story. Just totally out of touch such that it is "unthinkable" that a bunch of students wouldn't ascribe greater reverence to objects that at the end of the day are just mundane tools.
I'm not talking about the gun rack, I'm talking about the gun. A gun is no mundane tool.