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Presidential rhetoric corresponds to presidential action; it precedes and defines it. What a candidate says on the campaign trail connects to what he (or she) will do in office. And if Trump has had a single consistent message, it is that he’ll use the violent arm of the state to cleanse the nation of “scum” and “vermin,” whether immigrants and refugees or dissenters and political opponents like Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi.

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't think this take is entirely fair.

Leftists were claiming Trump was a fascist right at the beginning of his campaign. Immediately, liberals started rejecting this notion due to "reductionism". To liberals, the idea of a fascists rising to become a viable candidate was unthinkable. How could our civil, enlightened system allow for such a candidate? Liberals didn't answer this question, and instead just rejected the idea of rising fascism wholesale.

For years, leftists have been sounding alarm bells about Trumpist fascism, only to be answered by asinine mainstream media pieces denying the claim. And now that liberals have sat on their asses and let fascism fester, theyve started pointing fingers inwards and to the left. Liberals are now blaming American fascism on leftists who refuse to vote for genocide. It could not be more in line with the historical blueprint: fascism takes rise, liberals start casting off leftists first to burn.

Google: trump fascism before:2016-01-01

Why you should stop calling Donald Trump a fascist. December 4, 2015

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/04/why-you-should-stop-calling-donald-trump-a-fascist/

Donald Trump Isn’t a Fascist; He’s a Media-Savvy Know-Nothing. December 28, 2015

https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/donald-trump-isnt-a-fascist-hes-a-media-savvy-know-nothing

Whose Fascism Is This, Anyway? Dec. 15, 2015

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/16/opinion/whose-fascism-is-this-anyway.html

Is Donald Trump leading a proto-fascist movement? August 28, 2015

https://theweek.com/articles/574097/donald-trump-leading-protofascist-movement

Trump May Be a Loudmouthed Demagogue, but Is He a Fascist? Donald Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric has his opponents likening him to Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. Such comparisons may be misplaced.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/12/09/trump-may-be-a-loudmouthed-demagogue-but-is-he-a-fascist/

Is Donald Trump a Fascist?

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fascist-354690

So I'm not sure whether your comment was coming from a leftists perspective or a liberal one, but to say that liberals knew all along about the impending threat of fascism is wrong. Leftists did, however.

Edit: typo

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was coming from me, because it was plainly obvious to me at the time. Like so glaringly obvious that the articles about how 'Trump isn't a real fascist' were obviously downplaying his obvious fascism by comparing him to 1943 Hitler instead of when Hitler was rising to power.