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We’ve been anticipating it for years,1 and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the ...

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[–] underthesign@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (7 children)

Firefox needs to work on ensuring seamless compatibility with more websites, web apps and so on, because I'm personally very bored with my kids' schools and related services sending out emails and forms with links that simply won't open in FF but are clearly expecting Chrome or Edge where they work fine. Yes, this is on the lazy developers, but if FF want wider scale take-up outside of geeky niche groups then this is the stuff they must fix.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 29 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If your site doesn't work on Firefox your site doesn't work. As web developers your job is to develop applications for the web not for one specific browser. This goes double for essential services.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 1 points 13 minutes ago

"ugh just use a normal browser"

  • everyone
[–] Rykzon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago

Doesn't really matter to a regular user, in that case it's"Firefox doesn't work"

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

That's some BS. You and i both know that Chromium has the largest share in the browser business, so it makes sense from a development perspective to develop websites that will reach the most people. It's on Firefox to optimise their browser so that it can run these sites as well.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 2 points 21 minutes ago

A single company shouldn't be able to dictate how the web works.

[–] fxdave@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago

Slack calls disabled for firefox users, but if you change the user agent to chrome it works...

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Okay that's fine, but when websites are effectively writing

if user_agent_string != [chromium]
     break;

It doesn't really matter how good compatibility is. I've had websites go from nothing but a "Firefox is not supported, please use Chrome" splash screen to working just fine with Firefox by simply spoofing the user agent to Chrome. Maybe some feature was broken, but I was able to do what I needed. More often than not they just aren't testing it and don't want to support other browsers.

The more insidious side of this is that websites will require and attempt to enforce Chrome as adblocking gets increasingly impossible on them, because it aligns with their interests. It's so important for the future of the web that we resist this change, but I think it's too late.

The world wide web is quickly turning into the dark alley of the internet that nobody is willing to walk down.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 13 points 3 hours ago

Firefox can't fix all the broken sites in the world, but they do investigate issues reported to https://webcompat.com

You can help by reporting sites that don't work for you.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I encounter this very infrequently. I think I only have 1-2 examples at work. It's not a huge deal for me to spin up a chrome for those one or two occasions.

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I recall I didn't get some sites working on Chrome either, when Firefox fails me 😅

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Can you send me an example? I don't think I ever really encountered those sites and I use FF almost exclusively for ~20 years.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago) (1 children)

Its a frequency of use thing, and also some required sites. Examples are sites hosted by schools, government, or workplaces.

Although most people using Firefox aren't aware of spoofing the client to look like chrome, so that might need to be talked about more.

That all said, I don't have problems with any required usage, the only ones I have an issue with are on my phone, using mull, some sites payment forms won't load or work correctly. Taco bell is pretty bad for that and then the app wouldnt work either for a while. I also run grapheneos though so its hard to say what's the cause there.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Hm, okay. Maybe it's just a US government page thing then. Here in Germany firefox is still at 20% and used to be the standard browser until 5-6 years ago, so maybe pages are still optimized for it here.

[–] jinarched@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

What to do when the site is not compatible with Firefox: Alt + ←