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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The WMD were always a false pretext.

And anyway, you can’t cherry pick any one episode or even several from history where the heads of state were wrong or stupid and say that they don’t know more than we do. They literally have everything we have in the public media and enormous intelligence operations working for them. This doesn’t make them honest or infallible, but anyone who sits in their armchair tut tutting about how “gee I hope this president can see it’s an obvious trap” is, in a word, a fool.

[–] andrewrgross 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think you're arguing a strawman version of my point. I'm not claiming that it's impossible for them to know something we don't. I'm just saying that the assumption that there is secret information that makes his actions sensible is not well founded.

There are numerous examples of leaders claiming expertise that wasn't borne out. And if this were the case, I think it would be reasonable to expect them to at least claim this to be the case.

As it stands, this behavior can be fully explained with the information available to us and Biden's foreign policy stance. So there is no reason when you see him doing something that can be easily explained by the observation that he has poor judgement and priorities that are wildly different than most Americans to believe that there is a reason outside of the public facts and our existing knowledge of his poor judgement and unpopular priorities.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you want to narrow your point that’s fine but I never said that there must be some reason their actions make sense. I said they can be wrong or duplicitous but they necessarily have more access to information than we do and that’s a plain fact you can’t talk your way past with all the hindsight in the world.