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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I suppose the question is how do you go from state to no state in one fell swoop?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A functional stateless society would be a generational undertaking not an overnight revolution, anarchists who believe otherwise are in the above picture.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean that sounds just like, Marxism-Leninism withering of the state kinda line really so that's what I get confused on unless you're saying that MLs are fundamentally anarchists in that they strive for a stateless society (eventually)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Typically, the idea of Marxists is to use the state apparatus to dismantle the state apparatus in the end.

Typically, the idea of anarchists is to build parallel structures outside of the state apparatus until the state apparatus is no longer able to resist the alternate power base deciding to dissolve the state.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's the first question, the second question is where do you bury all the damn bodies?

The third question is: "Oh shit, did we just kill all the farmers? Anybody know how to grow food?"

This is the point you really hope you're not ukrainian. Or, just, any Asians really.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is the point you really hope you’re not ~~ukrainian. Or, just, any Asians really.~~ a victim of colonization: irish, ukrainian, indian, native american, palestinian, etc.

It's all over the planet and it's not limited to empires that you don't like.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We might find out sooner than anyone thinks with the planet being destroyed, etc.