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[–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Abortion is a termination of a pregnancy. 20 minutes before birth, the proper abortive procedure is a caeserean section. Regardless, no one should have the right to use someone's body without their consent, which means there should be no term-based limits. If someone doesn't want to give from their body to support another person, they should not be compelled (but are). Anyone agreeing to term-based limits has made a joke of their own position. It's not murder if it's before some arbitrary line you set, then it's murder until the baby is born, then back to not being murder. You flip flop back and forth pretending you have justification and everything you're doing is reasonable. There is no justification. If it's murder than the whole thing should be banned, but it's not murder, so the whole thing should be permissible. Compromising is playing into anti-choice'manipulative hands.

[–] islandofcaucasus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're actually making a really good point that I never thought of, I just wish you weren't so antagonistic about it. I think you know that when the general public is talking about abortion, they're referring to the destruction of the fetus/unborn baby. Further, having a discussion about when the cut off is isn't being flip floppy or being manipulated, it's a complex problem despite how black and white you describe it.

That said, I'd never considered the idea that after a certain point, the abortion should consist of an early induced labor as opposed to the destruction of the fetus.

[–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

That's because they've been brainblasted with the slogan that abortion is murder. The only response is counter-slogan. Abortion is healthcare.

You say it's a complex problem. I assert you've been conditioned to believe it's a complex problem. The right to bodily autonomy gives a right to end the condition of pregnancy at any stage, whatever happens to the baby. What's complex is convincing a population that isn't even listening and has themselves been conditioned to not even realize the value of argument and so, they forgoe it.