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I'm starting this off by saying that I'm looking for any type of reasonably advanced photo manipulation tool, that runs natively under Linux. It doesn't have to be FOSS.

I switched to Linux, from Windows, about three years ago. I don't regret the decision whatsoever. However, one thing that has not gotten me away from Windows entirely, is the severe lack of photo editing tools.

So what's available? Well, you have GIMP. And then there's Krita, but that's more of a drawing software. And then...

Well that's it. As far as I know.

1. GIMP

Now, as someone migrating from Photoshop, GIMP was incredibly frustrating, and I didn't understand anything even after a few weeks of trying to get into it. Development seemed really slow, too. It's far from intuitive, and things that really should take a few steps, seemingly takes twenty (like wrapping text on a path? Should that really be that difficult?).

I would assume if you're starting off with GIMP, having never touched Photoshop, then it'd be no issue. But as a user migrating, I really can't find myself spending months upon months to learn this program. It's not viable for me.

No hate against GIMP, I'm sure it works wonders for those who have managed to learn it. But I can't see myself using it, and I don't find myself comfortable within it, as someone migrating from Photoshop.

2. Krita

Krita, on the other hand, I like much more. But, it's more of a drawing program. Its development is more focused on drawing, and It's missing some features that I want - namely selection tools. Filters are good, but I find G'MIC really slow. It also really chugs when working with large files.

Both of these programs are FOSS. I like that. I like FOSS software. But, apart from that, are there really no good alternatives to Photoshop? Again, doesn't need to be FOSS. I understand more complex programs take more development power, and I have no problem using something even paid and proprietary, as long as it runs on Linux natively.

I've tried running Photoshop under WINE, and it works - barely. For quick edits, it might work fine. But not for the work I do.

So I raise the question again. Are there no good alternatives to Photoshop? And then I raise a follow-up question, that you may or may not want to answer: If not, why?

Thanks in advance!

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[–] ApeCavalryArt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I want everyone who says "just use GIMP" to draw a box in gimp

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's easy, I just tried it and I haven't used GIMP that much in total and not at all in the previous year and a half.

You can draw a box with the paintbrush tool. Or if you want the lines to be totally straight, use the Paths tool, then when you’re done marking the lines you want (with or without curves) you click “stroke path” and get a window to select how you want the stroke to be. And I figured this out very quickly as a user not very well versed in GIMP.

As I also wrote in this comment; GIMP is meant to be an Image Manipulation Program, not a drawing program. You generally don't use a screwdriver to drive nails into wood, you've got a hammer for that. Sure, you can use a screwdriver for it in a pinch, but it's not going to do it well. Use the tools most appropriate for the thing you're actually trying to do.

[–] toikpi@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I use GIMP rarely but a quick search shows that you can use Shift-click to force straight lines or Shift-Ctrl-click to limit both the angle as well. https://thegimptutorials.com/how-to-draw-rectangle-square-box/

I half-remembered the Shift-click.

[–] Swexti@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looking past your downvotes, this is another good example of why I find it difficult to learn GIMP. As far as I know, you need to use a box selection to draw a box? Like border that selection or something? In what way is that intuitive from any perspective? It feels more like a workaround, rather than a solution.

[–] RS888@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The process for a box is rectangle select tool>(right click)>edit>stroke selection.
If I remember correctly it used to be worse. It was Rectangle Tool, Edit, Selection to Path, Stroke Path

I love/hate gimp but I've used it for years because it's faster and easier than cracking photoshop on a new device.

[–] Swexti@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I see. That, in my opinion, is too many steps to draw a box. What if I wanted to draw a triangle? How would I do that? There's no triangle select.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You can draw a box with the paintbrush tool, though. That also fixes your thing about triangle. Or if you want the lines to be totally straight, use the Paths tool, then when you're done marking the lines you want (with or without curves) you click "stroke path" and get a window to select how you want the stroke to be.

That's either selecting the paintbrush and drawing directly (1 click and drawing) or selecting the paths tool, making the path, and choosing the line style (1 click + however many points needed + 1 click + selecting parameters (I just went for the default to test) + 1 click to confirm).

But then again; GIMP isn't meant to be a drawing program, it's Image Manipulation Program. Use the right tools for the right things.